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The new 3 part Stephen Hawkings documentary has made me change my mind a bit about Aliens.
However none are ever likely to come here.

This ^ it was quite sad really that the odds of life are infinitely large but the chances of them being able to contact us (if they could even find us) or vice versa are infinitely small.
 
Personally i find these threads absolutely fascinating. Even if you don't believe in aliens it sure makes for an interesting read. The fact that we can track and monitor these sort of irregular happenings up in the sky is interesting enough.

I on the other hand like to believe it is something extra terrestrial, something alien. I'm one of the lucky few to have witnessed something when i was a younger that leaves me open minded... And frankly it just seems logical that think we are not alone, i find it almost arrogant to dismiss the idea so easily.
 
99.99%? Where does that figure come from? Citation need.

All the alien stories are complete fabrications, there has yet to be any credible evidence that life exists outside planet Earth. Until there is there is, I'm not going to believe any alien story without evidence. What's more likely, it's a rocket booster from a previous mission, which we know happened, or it's some alien craft, when there's no evidence of aliens? Seriously.

Its not about evidence, its about thinking logically and using statistics, watch the hawkings documentry mentioned here.

 
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The chance of another life form outside Earth is statistically quite high. However, intelligent life if a lot less likely. Intelligent life than has that technology to travel between stars is ridiculously small.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter

It's great predicting and putting a probability on things, but in the end it's all crap until we finally discover another life form. Who's to say they might not be ten times more advance than us? No one.
 
I think the entire Universe is teaming with life in various stages of evolution, some species will be millions of years ahead of us with civilisations spanning 1000's of solar systems, some might have visited us in past or even present. I think life is almost curtain to happen given the right planet.

An interesting experiment by Carl Sagan showing how easy it is to make the building blocks for life:

 
99.99%? Where does that figure come from? Citation need.
All the alien stories are complete fabrications, there has yet to be any credible evidence that life exists outside planet Earth. Until there is there is, I'm not going to believe any alien story without evidence.

And I 100% agree with you BUT (just like on Earth) I think life will find a way everywhere it can in the Universe.
However, I don't think for one second that any of it looks like us or (if intelligent) could ever get here.
 
Whats scary is, assuming this is true and some people genuinly believe aliens are a load of rubbish, is the sheer ignorance, pompousness and down right 'living in a fish bowl' idea of the universe people have :eek: , I mean given the odds how exactly is it such a huge leap of understanding for people to conclude, hang on a min........yeah they probably do exist........ it baffles me.

Probability of alien life must be near as matters 100% but using Earth as an example what is the probability of intelligient life?

This planet has been here a long time, billions of species have evolved and died off. Yet only one is intelligient - us. We are freaks and so statistically uncommon that it is perfectly reasonable to consider we are alone in the universe.

If you then add to that the difficulty in crossing inter-stellar distances (or even sending messages), something that may never be practical (certainly isn't with current knowledge) and you have to wonder why anyone would think aliens have visited us when the proof is virtually non-existant.

It's as likely as God to be honest.
 
These threads are tiresome on OCUK TBH, aliens are HIGHLY likely to exist, odds are over 99.99%, so I struggle to see the constant mocking other than its the 'fasionable' thing to do ?

Photograph of a reptillian and I'd say a genuine one.

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It's hard to take them seriously after they claim these are our alien overlords, Angelina jolie is a reptilian alien, 9/11 was human sacrifice to a tarot card, and that aliens stand at the bottom of their beds and watch them sleep.
 
Whats scary is, assuming this is true and some people genuinly believe aliens are a load of rubbish, is the sheer ignorance, pompousness and down right 'living in a fish bowl' idea of the universe people have :eek: , I mean given the odds how exactly is it such a huge leap of understanding for people to conclude, hang on a min........yeah they probably do exist........ it baffles me.

Aliens > very likely to exist,
Intelligent aliens >less likley but still possible
intelligent aliens developing interstellar travel >much less likley
aliens developing interstellar travel based on FTL and non generational ARK ships > much much less likley
intelligent aliens using such a craft to come to earth and get spotted by primitive radar infra-red cameras or the local red neck >infinitesimal.
 
Probability of alien life must be near as matters 100% but using Earth as an example what is the probability of intelligient life?

This planet has been here a long time, billions of species have evolved and died off. Yet only one is intelligient - us. We are freaks and so statistically uncommon that it is perfectly reasonable to consider we are alone in the universe.

If you then add to that the difficulty in crossing inter-stellar distances (or even sending messages), something that may never be practical (certainly isn't with current knowledge) and you have to wonder why anyone would think aliens have visited us when the proof is virtually non-existant.

It's as likely as God to be honest.
What is scary, is that if there is intelligent life elsewhere, we here on Earth are a very young race, and any other intelligent life has a much bigger chance of being much more advanced that us.

If, of course.. only "if". :)
 
What is scary, is that if there is intelligent life elsewhere, we here on Earth are a very young race, and any other intelligent life has a much bigger chance of being much more advanced that us.

If, of course.. only "if". :)

Why does everyone assume we're the undeveloped ones?


It's perfectly possible that we are the most advanced of the aliens.


And look how we treat less developed countries with resources we want?


Why do you think any aliens would be different ;)
 
Why does everyone assume we're the undeveloped ones?


It's perfectly possible that we are the most advanced of the aliens.


And look how we treat less developed countries with resources we want?


Why do you think any aliens would be different ;)

If we are the advanced ones then we need to discover new life and civilisation and boldly go where no man has gone before.........hmm deja vu ¬_¬

What people are on about is if intelligent life finds us, if/when that happens then it's completely unlikely that we will be the more intelligent of the 2 civilisations.
 
I think the entire Universe is teaming with life in various stages of evolution, some species will be millions of years ahead of us with civilisations spanning 1000's of solar systems, some might have visited us in past or even present. I think life is almost curtain to happen given the right planet.

Roughly my opinion as well. Even if one in a billion solar systems can harbour life, there is still a few hundred trillion solar systems out there in the formula. I do not know if life exists, but the laws of average and logic tells me, yes, there is life out there.
 
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Why does everyone assume we're the undeveloped ones?


It's perfectly possible that we are the most advanced of the aliens.


And look how we treat less developed countries with resources we want?


Why do you think any aliens would be different ;)
Because Earth is only a fraction the age of the universe, and the Human Race a mere blink of the eye for the age of Earth. There is a much greater possibility for intelligent life to be living on a planet for much, much longer than we have been here, and thus much more likely to be more advanced than us.

If you stopped playing devil's advocate and actually thought for a change, you might be able to answer your own questions. ;)
 
These threads are tiresome on OCUK TBH, aliens are HIGHLY likely to exist, odds are over 99.99%, so I struggle to see the constant mocking other than its the 'fasionable' thing to do ?

Actually I reckon that 99.99% of OCUK members believe there is life out there in the Universe that maybe resembles a jellyfish or amoeba but 90% of them don't believe they are driving around our atmosphere like boy racers or giving us anal probes.
The mocking is because there has NEVER been any concrete proof of alien visitation and every thing posted on here as been complete rubbish that a 4 year old could spot is fake.
 
I sometimes think really really hard, trying to understand the scope of it all. I usually fail, then sometimes, for just a second, I seem to understand what we're dealing with but I usually cannot keep understanding. It's just too big.
 
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