Anyone flying any England flags on your car?

Dont get me wrong, i'm well aware that the west ham millwall game is a bit of a one off, but english fans abroad still very much have a "reputation"

Its that i'm referring to.

I went to Millwall vs Swindon last week and I didn't see a bit of trouble, this was with 40,000 Millwall fans. I've been going to every single QPR home game and a lot of away games for years and I've never seen any serious trouble at all. Millions of people watch football live up and down the country every week and you (someone I assume has never been to a game) had to go back how far in the national media to find something? The media jump on these kind of things yet you don't see articles like that very often.

Anyway it's a strawman argument you've created - the question was how is displaying a flag supporting hooliganism?
 
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Anyway it's a strawman argument you've created - the question was how is displaying a flag supporting hooliganism?

its not specificly hooliganism.

Your typical town centre on match day, is full of drunken, loud, inconsiderate fans that have to be kept to opposite sides of town in case a a fight breaks out.

Its this sort of behavious that we're on about.
 
its not specificly hooliganism.

Your typical town centre on match day, is full of drunken, loud, inconsiderate fans that have to be kept to opposite sides of town in case a a fight breaks out.

Its this sort of behavious that we're on about.

Errr no. It's quite rare that fans are segregated in town centres in fact I can't remember it ever happening at QPR, the only thing I've seen is away fans sometimes being kept back a bit longer.

You clearly don't have a clue about what you are talking about but I guess that seems to be a common theme these days and doesn't seem to stop you.

You said that displaying a flag 'supports hooliganism' which is complete and utter drivel and you refuse to back up the statement now.
 
I had done once, but when I drove through where the 'Asian Community' lived, they look less than impressed :rolleyes:
 
its not specificly hooliganism.

Your typical town centre on match day, is full of drunken, loud, inconsiderate fans that have to be kept to opposite sides of town in case a a fight breaks out.

Its this sort of behavious that we're on about.


For every idiot there are a thousand normal people.... a bit like the rest of life.

I know, lets all sit in the bath with a bin on our head and not take part in that either.
 
I don't even like football and even if I did I'd never put flags between the window frames and dent the rubber seals :O

Plus they're stupid.


:p
 
I love it how the Daily Mail/Sun plastic patriots fly the flag at times like these, patriotism isnt about pulling out a plastic poundland flag every 2 years, its about caring about your country and its people all the time, I'll not stereotype footy fans, as im one, and I've been to many tournament and had a great time, but the loutish thugs do ruin it for the rest of us, and flag morons just look cheesy and fake, but if they are happy then what the hell:p
 
You've said it yourself, it's about showing support for a football team, nothing to do with patriotism.

There is something wrong when people are only patriotic for a month every two years, or whenever else we happen to be winning something, such as the massive surge in both 'patriotism' and rugby fans when it became apparent they might actually win the RWC a few years back.


NATIONAL team not just a football team, they are proberly patriotic all the time it's events like these that bring it to the fore.. If we lived in America we would be encouraged to show our patriotism more, fly the flag on your front lawn, swear allegience to the flag etc etc but we are English and by nature reserved and stiff upper lipped so we only bring our patriotism to the fore on certain occasions... imo of course .
 
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