Poll: Why is England all over mars bars?

[daz]

So no1 has answered yet..... Why is Wales not included on the union jack?

Wales isn't on the Union Jack for the same reason that Cornwall isn't on the Union Jack.

 

[Wicksta]

So no1 has answered yet..... Why is Wales not included on the union jack?

To annoy simple people like you.

 

[Cold Fusion]

Anyone seen Peter Crouch's Pringles Ad


God its bad.

 

[meghatronic]

To quote Andy Parsons

One of my favourite quotes. I really don't understand this Anglophobia... Culturally the UK is so rich because of the Union. It's bloody brilliant and a historical masterpiece that so much blood was split for.

 

[Dracata]

So no1 has answered yet..... Why is Wales not included on the union jack?

Ah... look what we did

I can see many points arising from Laws_in_Wales_Acts_1535 and feel that we may actually just be arguing over terminology.

 

[meghatronic]

I don't see your point?

Wales shares English administration and legal jurisdiction which is well known, they are a single administrative state. They are however, seperate countries.

Wales is not part of England!

Wales is a part of the (defunct) Kingdom of England - which was my point. I apologise if you thought I was implying geographical classifications.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Apparently it is according to that above pic by st georges cross...

Its not, i can promise you there is no reference to Wales on the actually flag, there is England, Scotland and Ireland on there.... just no reference to the Welsh.

 

[platypus]

Can't understand why people buy them anyway, disgusting things.

 

[Dracata]

One of my favourite quotes. I really don't understand this Anglophobia... Culturally the UK is so rich because of the Union. It's bloody brilliant and a historical masterpiece that so much blood was split for.

OcUK needs a like button

 

[Locky]

Because we are only included when it suits England.

When it suits Wales, without England would you get all the the little perks you get NO, would Wales be better off NO, now shut up.

 

[Bubo]

You taffs don't seem to mind playing in the English footbal league, notably Swansea. But if the Anglos encroach on your welsh mars bars, then it all kicks off

 

[meghatronic]

OcUK needs a like button

Cheques are more palatable .

 

[Gaidin109]

You’s have no reason not to support Wales, I'd like to support England but like i have previously said we are told we are "British" yet on the other hand when it comes to national identity Wales is always forgotten. Its easy for you "spew" out the same old garbage that every1 like your self says but the writing is on the wall... We are always an after thought, this is the patriotic side of me coming out not the "English hating Scum bag" your making me out to be! If the table's were turned believe you me you'd be the first to start with your rants.

Actually I wouldn't. I have no objection to a British National Football team to replace the three separate one we have currently. The Welsh and Scots however do. For all you know I could be Welsh, so you jump to unsubstaniated assumptions like all bigoted people do.

Ydych chi'n siarad Cymraeg?

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Ah... look what we did

I can see many points arising from Laws_in_Wales_Acts_1535 and feel that we may actually just be arguing over terminology.

Its about the actualy union flag its self..

The most recognised symbol for the uk is the union jack yes….. so how can we feel British patriotism when we’re not even included on the flag? I know we are totally off the original topic but I often have funny banted between the guys on vent

 

[Dracata]

Cheques are more palatable .

See how us civilised people argue/debate? We discuss valid points and take into account all information available to us, and make an informed decision.

I think re: Wales & England i'm arguing over terminology, i've learned some useful information from this thread.

 

[Wicksta]

You taffs don't seem to mind playing in the English footbal league, notably Swansea. But if the Anglos encroach on your welsh mars bars, then it all kicks off

Then when they get perfectly valid red cards they go crying to the Welsh FA who have the power to rescind cards and nearly always do! It makes you sick, they should be playing in the Welsh league or at least have to answer to the English football league/FA and not their sheep loving brethren at the FAW.

 

[meghatronic]

Its about the actualy union flag its self..

The most recognised symbol for the uk is the union jack yes….. so how can we feel British patriotism when we’re not even included on the flag? I know we are totally off the original topic but I often have funny banted between the guys on vent

Right, I apologise for just pasting wiki, but I am trying to work here (to pay for your free prescriptions).

When James VI, King of Scots, inherited the thrones of England and Ireland and was crowned James I of England in 1603, the crowns of the Kingdom of England (which included the Kingdom of Ireland and, since 1535, Wales), and the Kingdom of Scotland were united in a personal union through him. Despite this Union of the Crowns, each kingdom remained an independent state.
On 12 April 1606, a new flag to represent this regal union between England and Scotland was specified in a royal decree, according to which the flag of England (also representing Wales by implication), (a red cross with a white background, known as St. George's Cross), and the flag of Scotland (a white saltire with a blue background, known as the Saltire or St. Andrew's Cross), would be "joined together according to the forme made by our heralds, and sent by Us to our Admerall to be published to our Subjects." forming the flag of Great Britain and first union flag. This royal flag was at first only for use at sea on civil and military ships of both Scotland and England. In 1634, King Charles I restricted its use to the monarch's ships. (Land forces continued to use their respective national banners.) After the Acts of Union 1707, the flag gained a regularised status as "the ensign armorial of the Kingdom of Great Britain", the newly created state. It was then adopted by land forces as well, although the blue field used on land-based versions more closely resembled that of the blue of the flag of Scotland.

 

[K1LLSW1TCH]

So no1 has answered yet..... Why is Wales not included on the union jack?

I'm Welsh and some of the comments in this thread are cringe worthy. We were talking about Mars bars and now we've gone off on a completely different tangent altogether!

You don't have to buy the chocolates, you don't need to wave English flags or wear English shirts or even watch English football. But to not do any of those things purely because "You're Welsh and they're English" is ludicrous. That said though there is another poster in here who is merely adding fuel to the flames.

I have to reiterate though, not every Welsh person has the same views as Thegoon. Fitting username btw.

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Ydych chi'n siarad Cymraeg?

A bit yes.

(to pay for your free prescriptions).

lol

 

[meghatronic]

See how us civilised people argue/debate? We discuss valid points and take into account all information available to us, and make an informed decision.

I think re: Wales & England i'm arguing over terminology, i've learned some useful information from this thread.

As I (think I) said earlier, it is largely splitting hairs/semantics. But England and Wales are de jure and in terms of the Crown, the same.