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Help with new xfx5830

rik81h

rik81h

rik81h

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Hi guys. I just purchased my first graphics card, after having a look around in this forum im wondering whether there's some simple things i should do to get this working correctly. I previously used onboard gpu, do i need to uninstall any part of that? Bios settings? I have sound issues now and again and random game crashes on avp. Also the temp is high idle is 50-60 load up to 80 on max game and ati settings. I've used overdrive to crank it up nearly all the way also, although none of these settings altered the temp. Also im using hdmi on 720 but if i use dvi-vga on 1360x768 text and web pages look better its a bit to sharp on hdmi even though i've dropped the sharpness on my tv?? Thanks in advance for any info
 
What case do you have? Idle temps seem a bit high, but max temps seem fine.
What onboard GPU is it? You don't usually have to uninstall anything, as the system will detect the card and the onboard gpu will disable itself.
What drivers are you using? Try updating to the latest ones.
Also, it could be the PSU, is it feeding the 5830 enough power?
 
try putting overdrive back to default settings. You shouldnt really need to overclock it at that resolution. Should also improve stability :)

Temps look fine, maybe a bit high on idle as Orcvader said.

What's the rest of the rig? (including PSU)
 
Thanks for the quick replies guys, the case is NZXT Hush, i know it's not the coolest case but never had temp issues before even pushing my cpu hard. The mobo is Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H GeForce 7100/630I chipset. I've got the latest ati drivers for sure i updated after disc install only 3 days ago or something like that.

The rig as stands is:-
OCZ ModXStream 700w psu
Intel e5200 c3d @4.2
Kingston hyper x ddr2 4 gig @ 870mhz 5-4-4-9-12
Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H
NZXT Hush Case

I've got a Asus P5E3 board in waiting for ddr3 ram which is why i brought the gpu then i'll be adding a c2q q9300.

Thanks guys
 
Easing the overclocks should help with stability. Would need more info about the sound issues.

What TV is it you're using? The native resolution will affect how sharp it looks at the different settings. It will look sharpest at native, and blurrier as you deviate away from it.
 
The cpu or gpu overclocks, the issues the cpu overclocks produce which i've gotten down to just cold boot doesn't go away unless it's practically at stock b'coz the mobo is poor can't change vdim or volt nb. As for gpu clocks i'll see if happens at dif clocks. The tv is a Loewe Xelos, native res is 1366x768. As far as i've tried i can't output that via hdmi which i'd like to stick with b'coz of the colour appearing better with component breakdown also the sound is better quality.
The issue with sound is sometimes like on intro of avp or even the menu of it i get a crackling/popping which occurs also sometimes on hd movies. I've tried altering the bass off the tv and changing the cutoff even at 200hz and it doesn't resolve it, it doesnt suffer from it over vga though with sound via jack to rca
 
hm try re-installing your mobo sound drivers

disable the ATI sound adapter in control panel: hardware: device manager

first things first you need to eliminate the cause of bsod..

get prime95 and do some blend tests - i thought my oc was stable but it failed withion the first 10 seconds.. so ive worked it to a point where my q6600 oc is prime95 stable for the last 2 hours and counting...

once ive done 4-6 hours or so ill take it that it shouldnt be too problematic and then start hunting down issues with the gfx card after that stability has been achieved.

the issue with 5830 is u cant adjust the voltage of the gpu so overclocks might be a little limited but test your system stability first.

as for onboard gfx go into bios, check probably under chipset features or similar and ensure that onboard vga is disabled - it probably autosensed the pci-e card and disabled it itself but you can never be sure.
 
im using the hdmi out on the gpu for sound also, so should i re-install mobo sound drivers?

Not so much got bsod's anymore just game crashes especially on blur which i've tried two copies, only happened once on avp and i think that was due to heat.

I've tried prime 95 ha doesn't like it surprisingly, am i better re-clocking my ram or cpu first? I think the cpu is ok i have had problems with the ram before and had to down clock it because although i can change the timings i can't change vdimm.

Onboard sound and graphics disabled now too.
 
rik81h said:
Not so much got bsod's anymore just game crashes especially on blur which i've tried two copies, only happened once on avp and i think that was due to heat.

I've tried prime 95 ha doesn't like it surprisingly, am i better re-clocking my ram or cpu first? I think the cpu is ok i have had problems with the ram before and had to down clock it because although i can change the timings i can't change vdimm.
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Can't say I'm surprised that it's not prime stable with the E5200 at 4.2GHz, unless you are feeding it crazy amount of vcore. Try dropping to 3.8-4.0GHz and try prime again may be?
 
I think off top of my head vcore is on 1.475, cpuz doesnt read it properly, i'll check shortly when i crank it down which is when i'll try prime again. Is prime more likely to respond to cpu changes over ram changes?
 
tough one.

i have been struggling with the same thing myself. however i downloaded memtest86 3.4 (supports 4gb mem, which 3.5 does not) ran a couple of passes of test 3 and 4 and decided my ram was NOT a hindering factor here,

then it comes down to is the CPU MHz okay, or is it the motherboard FSB that is the problem?

trial and error im afraid -

bu you will never have stable gaming regardless of gfx card if you cannot prime for more than a few hours without a core error.
 
well i had some ram issues a while back and i used memtest (not memtest86) which i believe does check all available ram unless you secify an amount to check which did used to fail but i dropped the frequency and stuck with the tight timings and it passed continuously, thats why i asked b'coz i think the ram is ok now.

I've dropped the cpu to 3.6 and currently prime95 has run for 15 minutes where as previously it wouldn't go past a few seconds so i'll leave it running and see what happens. But i am glad to say that even when i put it to 3.8 (not prime stable) the game blur did stop crashing and i played it for a while last night, including crysis-which although had some rough moments b'coz it was just to much for the cpu it didn't crash just went very jittery. I think the gfx card is fine, i don't know about the sound thing though that bugs me, even did it on a dvd a little last night. Don't know what the problem is there.
 
rik81h said:
I've dropped the cpu to 3.6 and currently prime95 has run for 15 minutes where as previously it wouldn't go past a few seconds so i'll leave it running and see what happens. But i am glad to say that even when i put it to 3.8 (not prime stable) the game blur did stop crashing and i played it for a while last night, including crysis-which although had some rough moments b'coz it was just to much for the cpu it didn't crash just went very jittery. I think the gfx card is fine, i don't know about the sound thing though that bugs me, even did it on a dvd a little last night. Don't know what the problem is there.
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The blue screen is not really game related, but is actually to do with the system being unstable. Crysis is quite CPU intensive, and it probably stress the CPU as much as Prime does. So if you can't get a stable run on Prime, it's understandable to get blue screen when gaming as the CPU is being stressed.

What vcore you using at the moment? I managed to get my dad's E5200 prime stable at 3.8GHz with 1.35v and Northbridge +0.1V and FSB+0.1V.
 
As i dropped to 3.6 i dropped vcore to 1.35. Unfortunately this current mobo isn't very good, i can't change nb or fsb voltage but i do have a p5e3 in waiting as previously mentioned just need some ddr3 then i'll be getting a q9300 is the plan which should make things better.

Any ideas on sound via hdmi guys? Also is it possible to get my screens native res to work through hdmi (1366x768), i can do it through dvi-vga.

Thanks for all your help people :)
 
it won't let me. under hdtv support it only lists 720 and 1080 (readds the edid wrong, my set won't do 1080) and thats it under that catergory. Under desktop properties 1360 x 768 is there but only at 25hz which doesn't display properly??
 
rik81h said:
As i dropped to 3.6 i dropped vcore to 1.35. Unfortunately this current mobo isn't very good, i can't change nb or fsb voltage but i do have a p5e3 in waiting as previously mentioned just need some ddr3 then i'll be getting a q9300 is the plan which should make things better.
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I don't really think it's gonna worth it for you to upgrade to a Q9300 (most people go for 2nd hand Q9550 because of its 6MB extra cache and higher clock speed). Your E5200 at 3.6GHz should do fine with the 5830. Leave the CPU/platform upgrade till when you are upgrading your graphic next time.
 
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i hope not to be upgrading gfx again for a good while now, i thought the 5830 was quite good? 2nd hand the Q9300 is half the price of the 9550 and has good clocking capabilities.

Can anyone help as to getting my native res set via hdmi?
 
thanks nickg, its not that i can't use ccc (or at least i think not lol) just can't seem to get that res via hdmi only dvi-vga. Tried it with vista properties last night and buggered things for a while lol. Although in my trial and error i got 1080i working but most things didn't like it because 30hz was best i could get and i need higher. Plus fps in avp test dropped dramatically as you'd imagine. I'd just be happy with 1366x768 :)
 
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