Not a spec me, but suggest to me...

NVP · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:16

eatcustard said:
Why not a fast car?
You can do a much damage is a slow car

Is that a serious question?

SeatIbiza said:
I think TT might be the way to go.

Yeah TT would fit the bill, but that price will only get her an old shape TT which is not to her liking.

What are SLKs like? A 2002 will fit the budget & mileage, any opinions on these?

eatcustard · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:17

Answer the question

Why not a fast car?
You can do a much damage is a slow car
So can she drive "well or not"

NVP · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:19

eatcustard said:
Answer the question

Why not a fast car?
You can do a much damage is a slow car
So can she drive "well or not"

Answer mine first:
Why does insurance increase with engine size/car performance?

TS7 · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:21

A 2002 SLK has no wow factor. They have aged badly in terms of interior and exterior.

NVP · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:25

You may have a point, but it is still a "Mercedes" and a "convertible" which to her friends is "Waa-waa-wee-waa!"

eatcustard · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:26

NVP said:
Answer mine first:
Why does insurance increase with engine size/car performance?

Cost to repair and theft, being the main 2
Top end speed is only a small part of loading.

A Focus hitting another car at 70 is the same as a 911 hitting a car at 70.

NVP · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:27

But putting you foot to the floor when it's damp in a focus and in a 911 is completely different.

eatcustard · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:29

NVP said:
But putting you foot to the floor when it's damp in a focus and in a 911 is completely different.

was an example

now answer mine

TS7 · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:31

How about:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1752699.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1457562.htm

Janesy B · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:31

NVP said:
You may have a point, but it is still a "Mercedes" and a "convertible" which to her friends is "Waa-waa-wee-waa!"

Peerzy said:
TT really sounds like the best one tbh, even if I don't like the car hardly I can understand it's slow enough and prestige enough to make idiots think wow.

Thank you for validating the point he made.

Fr0dders · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:43

NVP said:
Me first, she took some coming round to.

Didn't think about a removable hardtop, how practical are they? Are they prone to leaking? Easy for one person to assemble alone?

as others have said, i think you're being too controlling.

If she wants a soft top roadster, let her get one. She wont thank you for it in the long run.

But, if you must, the MX5 hardtop just has two clips. Its a single piece item. You'll need a garage or similar to store it when not in use as it is rather big, but it achieves the soft top thing and keeps security nicely. Also nicer when its snowy outside etc.. as the car gets warmer quicker.

Literally just lift it into place (its heavy) clip into place and jobe done.

Relentless81 · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:47

Good jobe y0

Housey · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:52

She does sound like a lot of other people I know living in and around Manchester. It must be the superficial capital of England at the moment. I can understand you trying to give her a rational steer, I suggest it might be wasted. I guess wow factor means different things to different people. Wimin!

Relentless81 · 15 Jun 2010 at 15:57

Housey said:
She does sound like a lot of other people I know living in and around Manchester. It must be the superficial capital of England at the moment

Honestly, even the fat ugly munters wont touch you unless you play for Man United and own an exotic car

Ev0 · 15 Jun 2010 at 16:16

3 series coupe? 320 or something as she won't be fussed on the engine, not sure if you can get a facelifted model for 8k in the smaller engines though.

Dave M · 15 Jun 2010 at 16:19

Has she bought an S2000 yet?

Ryan-3 · 15 Jun 2010 at 16:24

S2000's are very good cars. Very reliable, safe and very good to drive

Begbie · 15 Jun 2010 at 17:19

Ryan-3 said:
S2000's are very good cars. Very reliable, safe and very good to drive

Are they not renowened for being a bit touchy in the wet? Espically the older models? No T/C either.

Peerzy · 15 Jun 2010 at 22:11

NVP said:
Fotunately my sister is not an idiot and does not like TTs either. However please refrain from implying such a close member of my family is an "idiot" if you wish to participate in this thread further.

You took my comment the wrong was. I was implying average Joe on the street will see her drive past and think wow - they are the idiots not your sister.

No harm intended!

NVP · 15 Jun 2010 at 23:09

Sorry about the delay in response, work has been full of madness today, just got home now and I started at 9am

eatcustard said:
was an example

now answer mine

If you really need me to then I will.

Yes you can have an accident in any type of car, but a powerful car in inexperienced hands is a recipe for disaster. The slightest thing could cause the car to respond in a manner an inexperienced person would not expect thus resulting in what could possibly be a serious accident. A powerful car in my sisters hands would be a catastrophe.

TS7 said:
How about:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1752699.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1457562.htm

Interesting idea, bit too high mileage though.

Janesy B said:
Thank you for validating the point he made.

Peerzy said:
You took my comment the wrong was. I was implying average Joe on the street will see her drive past and think wow - they are the idiots not your sister.

No harm intended!

I do have to apologise, I was in an irritable mood earlier thanks to arrogant colleagues. After re-reading I realised I interpreted it personally rather than objectively. My bad

MrLOL said:
as others have said, i think you're being too controlling.

If she wants a soft top roadster, let her get one. She wont thank you for it in the long run.

But, if you must, the MX5 hardtop just has two clips. Its a single piece item. You'll need a garage or similar to store it when not in use as it is rather big, but it achieves the soft top thing and keeps security nicely. Also nicer when its snowy outside etc.. as the car gets warmer quicker.

Literally just lift it into place (its heavy) clip into place and jobe done.

I'm not bossing her around, she can get what she wants but I am trying to guide her wisley to avoid her buying something on impulse which she may later regret. A soft top convertible will be too insecure for the stuff she keeps in her car and where she parks. A powerful car will be too dangerous as she is unaware of how quick 350Zs and such actually are, a car as quick as my 325 will be more than enough for her. I just want her to be in something that will take care of her, not something that might, god forbid, kill her.

A conv with a removable hard top may be a good suggestion, what others are the other than the mx-5 and S2000?

Housey said:
She does sound like a lot of other people I know living in and around Manchester. It must be the superficial capital of England at the moment. I can understand you trying to give her a rational steer, I suggest it might be wasted. I guess wow factor means different things to different people. Wimin!

Manchester does have that sort of vibe to it. I'm not sure of her reasoning, but I think it's just to impress her friends as they all have "nice" cars (although one has a pink Daihatsu conv :eek:

)

Ev0 said:
3 series coupe? 320 or something as she won't be fussed on the engine, not sure if you can get a facelifted model for 8k in the smaller engines though.

You can as I got my 2.5 facelift for 8 n a bit. But for that reason she won't get one.

Begbie said:
Are they not renowened for being a bit touchy in the wet? Espically the older models? No T/C either.

Yeah I don't think an S2000 will be a good choice for her.

As long as she has overtaking power, can cruise comfortably on the motorway and looks "flashy" then that will be sufficient.

I don't think there is much choice for the spec I have provided, say we up the cost to £10k and increase the mileage to <60k, any other suggestions?