Valve has a surprise for us..

orderoftheflame · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:15

ChrisJSY said:
"We're bringing steam to consoles, automatic updates, steamcloud"
Not exactly innovation there is it, automatic updates to console games.
¬_¬

Which consoles offer automatic updates? Both the Xbox 360 and PS3 only check for updates when launching a game, leaving a player having to either wait for the download or having to stick to playing offline.

Automatic for me says that it checks in the background and downloads when you're not using the console.

ChrisJSY said:
I'm very curious how they will handle the comples moves required for portal games, generall console gamers have a harder time aiming and being quick to focus a "crosshair" to locations. If left in it's current state I can see lots of consolers getting frustrated. No doubt a system will be put in place to aid in this disability.

You are aware that the first Portal game was a huge success on the Xbox 360? Both as part of the Orange Box and standalone on XBLA.

Dave85 · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:17

that is all.

CliffyBiro · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:21

orderoftheflame said:
Which consoles offer automatic updates? Both the Xbox 360 and PS3 only check for updates when launching a game, leaving a player having to either wait for the download or having to stick to playing offline.

Automatic for me says that it checks in the background and downloads when you're not using the console.

This is one of the features of the new PlaystationPlus subscription apparently.

cheets64 · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:22

Does the PC not having a massive groundbreaking gaming expo!

ChrisJSY · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:23

orderoftheflame said:
Which consoles offer automatic updates? Both the Xbox 360 and PS3 only check for updates when launching a game, leaving a player having to either wait for the download or having to stick to playing offline.

Automatic for me says that it checks in the background and downloads when you're not using the console.

My point exactly, it's automatic already, you do nothing but accept the update.

orderoftheflame said:
You are aware that the first Portal game was a huge success on the Xbox 360? Both as part of the Orange Box and standalone on XBLA.

No, this thread gives misleading information, people are complaining the game is now on consoles, but it already is?

AaronH · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:26

I lol'd at the announcement.

Consoles 1 - 0

FoxEye · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:27

Is anyone else mildly despondent at all this "transition from product to service" and "social networking in games" talk?

I mean, what about those of us who just want to play a well-designed game now and again?

chaotic_uk · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:28

FoxEye said:
I mean, what about those of us who just want to play a well-designed game now and again?

like me you mean

ChrisJSY said:
My point exactly, it's automatic already, you do nothing but accept the update.

No, this thread gives misleading information, people are complaining the game is now on consoles, but it already is?

what makes people annoyed is the fact that valve seem more interested in consoles now and not the pc , is it not fact that pc gamers made valve when the company was young ?

mrbios · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:29

FoxEye said:
well-designed game

Haven't seen one of those in many many years

mame · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:29

Shamikebab said:
I think the announcement is a disappointment (obviously as 99% were expecting a PC related announcement) but I don't see why this means the end of PC gaming. The Orange Box, L4D and L4D2 are on both 360 and PS3 and that hasn't meant the end to Valve's interest in PC gaming. Nothing wrong with a company wanting to have their games/services on multiple platforms, in this day and age there is no reason to have your work stuck on one platform.

L4d 1 or 2 isn't on PS3. I didn't say it was the end of PC gaming, I just said nearing the end. The only thing left being playing 1.1 versions on console games because that's all they are. even then, many of the big names are console only.

orderoftheflame · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:30

ChrisJSY said:
My point exactly, it's automatic already, you do nothing but accept the update.

My reading of automatic update is that the user doesn't even have to accept, it downloads in the background or when the user is watching a DVD or something so that the game is ready when they want to play. Just like Steam.

ChrisJSY said:
No, this thread gives misleading information, people are complaining the game is now on consoles, but it already is?

Yep. Portal 1 was released on both PS3 and Xbox 360 as part of the Orange Box. People liked it enough that it was released as a standalone on the Xbox Live Arcade.

This makes all the "OMG It's on the PS3!" rage hilarious to me.

It's nothing new.

FoxEye · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:31

mrbios said:
Haven't seen one of those in many many years

At some point you and I stopped being the target demographic. Probably about the same time game companies got CEOs and started worrying about target demographics.

just Scott · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:32

orderoftheflame said:
This makes all the "OMG It's on the PS3!" rage hilarious to me. It's nothing new.

There's only 1 or 2 complaining about this. The rest of us are severely disappointed that the "surprise" was something we already knew. Portal was obviously going to be on PS3, how is it a surprise at all?

So disappointing.

CliffyBiro · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:35

H2F Scott said:
Portal was obviously going to be on PS3, how is it a surprise at all?

No, it wasn't. Valve had repeatedly slagged the PS3 and said they'd never code for it again after the Orange Box. A surprise? Very much so.

orderoftheflame · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:36

H2F Scott said:
There's only 1 or 2 complaining about this. The rest of us are severely disappointed that the "surprise" was something we already knew. Portal was obviously going to be on PS3, how is it a surprise at all?

So disappointing.

I find it quite surprising actually.

Especially after Gabe Newell said:

"The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It’s really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted. I’d say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a ‘do over’. Just say, ‘This was a horrible disaster and we’re sorry and we’re going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it.’"

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12568/Gabe-Newell-PlayStation-3-Is-a-Total-Disaster/

The fact that L4D1/2 didn't make it there sort of cemented that Valve were distancing themselves from the PS3, so it is a surprise to see Gabe up on stage with them.

Sure it's not the epic surprise that a lot of people were building it up to be, but what did you expect?

666_Pounder · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:43

I am disappointed and what is this?

Muzy · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:55

666_Pounder said:
I am disappointed and what is this?

This is called greedy. a top pc company starts ******* it's fans.

Stupid Valve.

Fully star out swear words.

Shamikebab · 16 Jun 2010 at 00:56

skippi90 said:
No, it wasn't. Valve had repeatedly slagged the PS3 and said they'd never code for it again after the Orange Box. A surprise? Very much so.

Does it matter though?

I mean what's the difference to PC users if it's on PC/360 or PC/360/PS3?

chaotic_uk · 16 Jun 2010 at 01:00

pc gamers made valve in the early years , now the pc gamer is beeing shafted

CliffyBiro · 16 Jun 2010 at 01:00

Shamikebab said:
Does it matter though?

I mean what's the difference to PC users if it's on PC/360 or PC/360/PS3?

None at all. I didn't say there was.

I don't understand the raging though just because it's coming to PS3. Essentially, the rage is due to expecting something that wasn't promised.

EDIT: Like this

chaotic_uk said:
pc gamers made valve in the early years , now the pc gamer is beeing shafted