if you were in Nazi Germany would you..

No, it is a completely different thing entirely when you witness it first hand. The OP is quite clear that he meant if you lived with the regime, as the Allies gave their lives to stop these kind of attrocities during WW2 and people continue to do so now moots your point.
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not really - you see it on TV, in those days unless it happened in front of your face you would likely never know about it.

we can see exactly whats going on. we know whats going on. but we are far too comfortable doing what we do to care that much to lift a finger to help tbh. we live side by side next to these regimes, yet dont question or act to stop them...

why?
 
Sod that, if i was in Nazi Germany I'd probably sign up to be in the Gestapo. They had sweet uniforms.

I mean, come on, just look at this pimp chap! He probably has a roomful of wenches back at home.

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arknor said:
sure look at africa whole towns have been whiped out by machete wielding thugs because they suported the wrong party leader if that isnt perseuction and genocide what is

this didnt happen 16 years ago either http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

because genocide only happened in ww2
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I didn't say that Genocide only happened in WW2, I said

Richie said:
Because.... Genocide and persecution LIKE in WW2 is still happening ?? :confused:
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Maybe I should have been clearer and stated that I was referring to the mass number of killings involved in the Nazi Holocaust... Genocide at this level has never again happened....

Have a wiki link back - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_genocide#Victims_and_death_toll
 
The Mad Rapper said:
It wasn't disgusting at all - wind your neck in.

I simply chose an event which stuck in my memory, I am not pretending for a second that all sides weren't as bad as each other - those you mention are no worse.
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Considering that 90% of warcrimes were committed by the Serbs and it was they that instigated ethnic cleansing, I wouldn't say that all sides were as bad as each other at all. But taken in isolation as an example, ok. I would say that the Srebrenica or either of the Markale massacres would have been more apt examples however, as would be the any of the Ethnic Cleansing campaigns such as Foca, or indeed the concentration camps of Prijedor and Omarska among others.

My recollection of the War is somewhat different from yours is all.
 
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I think I would probably just have been a good little German and reported anyone trying to hide in my house - firstly, I would probably have believed the propaganda, secondly, If I wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of the law, and thirdly, most ordinary Germans had no idea that all the Jews were being taken away to be killed in various horrible ways, so I would probably just have thought the little wimp was afraid of doing a bit of hard work.

I don't think I would ever have been a fanatic, because I don't see myself being influenced so much even if everyone else around me thought Hitler could do no wrong. However, not being in that situation, especially not being taught that from a young age, I can't really say for certain, and I suppose I might well have ended up in the SS :(.

I suspect however, I would just play may part as a good citizen, join the army when required, and fight as a soldier, possibly dying for my country in what I would probably see as a war to protect my family, and for the good of many people.
 
GreatAuk said:
most ordinary Germans had no idea that all the Jews were being taken away to be killed in various horrible ways
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They were hardly all getting shipped off to Disney land were they?

Rumours of the camps got back to Germany right enough.

It 2 + 2 = 5. More a blind eye turned to it in many respects, again because of the atmosphere over country.

It has obviously been debated, but the Germans aren't as stupid as people seem to be making out. I'm sorry.
 
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Nickg said:
not really - you see it on TV, in those days unless it happened in front of your face you would likely never know about it.

we can see exactly whats going on. we know whats going on. but we are far too comfortable doing what we do to care that much to lift a finger to help tbh. we live side by side next to these regimes, yet dont question or act to stop them...

why?
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Yet we do help as a rule. I have first hand experience of peacekeeping and intervention.

It is completely different from watching it on Television where the horror is sanitized for consumption and you have no personal interaction and everything seems so distant and inpersonal.

When you see these things up close and personal it is different.
 
Biohazard said:
They were hardly all getting shipped off to Disney land were they?

Rumours of the camps got back to Germany right enough.

It 2 + 2 = 5. More a blind eye turned to it in many respects, again because of the atmosphere over country.

It has obviously been debated, but the Germans aren't as stupid as people seem to be making out. I'm sorry.
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Yes, they knew Jews were taken away somewhere else, to be resettled, or sent to 'work camps', but I doubt more than an insignificant minority knew that they were in fact not being re settled or even put to work (in most cases), but in fact just killed. I suppose there might well have been rumours, but would you really believe it if some random guy just tells you "hey, I heard that actually all the Jews get put in gas chambers and then burnt, extermination is the aim of the game" - I would think it was just another strange rumour, probably spread by the 'allies' trying to make Germany look bad, and then think nothing more of it. Just like a few years ago, if someone told you that a large part of the banking system would soon collapse, you would (I presume) just think it was scaremongering not to be taken any notice of.

There was no free press to write an article about 'Murder at Auschwitz'. Reliable information would have been hard to come by.
 
Even if German citizens knew of the atrocities being committed in the death camps what could they have done about it?
 
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Yes, they knew Jews were taken away somewhere else, to be resettled, or sent to 'work camps', but I doubt more than an insignificant minority knew that they were in fact not being re settled or even put to work (in most cases), but in fact just killed. I suppose there might well have been rumours, but would you really believe it if some random guy just tells you "hey, I heard that actually all the Jews get put in gas chambers and then burnt, extermination is the aim of the game" - I would think it was just another strange rumour, probably spread by the 'allies' trying to make Germany look bad, and then think nothing more of it. Just like a few years ago, if someone told you that a large part of the banking system would soon collapse, you would (I presume) just think it was scaremongering not to be taken any notice of.

There was no free press to write an article about 'Murder at Auschwitz'. Reliable information would have been hard to come by.
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Miss Information or understanding about the conflict and atrocities really does sadden me.

Unless these concentration camps were turning into new sovereign states in size, which they were not, people were not that stupid. In fact, many were complicit.

They knew all Jews were to be killed, they just didn't know about the 'Final Solution; ie the gas chambers.

I'm not being nasty with this, but go read:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/feb/17/johnezard

It wasn't a stitch up by the Allies; the German press said it all.

JBuk - Not much really. Stop killing them? Not support someone who was clearly a homicidal maniac?
 
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If I was in Germany and under threat of death if I didn't conform with what the state was doing then I'd probably do exactly what the state told me to do (kill innocents).

If I was in England and under threat of death if I didn't conform with what the state was doing then I'd probably do exactly what the state told me to do (save the free world).

Circumstance, it's a *****.
 
Question is what type of society would we be living in had Nazi Germany won WW2?? Think this has been discussed a bagillion times already tho! :o
 
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