Anyone want to do some windows live achievement boosting?

Most games I own on PC don't have achievements. Only ones mentionable are Valve games and batman AA.

Rest are just classic PC games, some do add fun to it but the heart of gameplay really shouldn't revolve around getting bloody achievements.
 
If I get 'em, good, but I don't go out of my way for achievements.

Of course, I'm just talking about Steam, as I wouldn't be caught dead touching GFWL with a 39' pole..
 
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Evilsod said:
Pff, these days they use achievements to encourage people to buy it, not to keep em playing. Most devs don't give a damn once they've bought the initial game, as seen by the insane number of 'completion' achievements. Fair enough achievements are a simple way of keeping track of how far through the game people got after buying it, but when the list is dominated by them... or kill x enemies with y weapon type things, its useless.

*shakes fist at the gnome in Episode 2*
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It amounts to the same thing does it not?

If people buy their games to play them = money

If people play their games, they buy more of their games/content (wow achievements spring to mind, being a month by month pay scheme.) = money

both results get them lots of money one way or the other. .

Either way you look at it, it's win win for developers.
 
As much as I don't massively care about achievements and do think that having an obsession about them can be a bit OTT, I think some of the reactions in this thread are pretty harsh. No need to be so elitist - at least the OP has moved from console gaming to PC gaming ;)
 
FrenchTart said:
As much as I don't massively care about achievements and do think that having an obsession about them can be a bit OTT, I think some of the reactions in this thread are pretty harsh. No need to be so elitist - at least the OP has moved from console gaming to PC gaming ;)
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Lol, well posting on OcUK that you cheated your way to an achievement was never going to end well to be fair. :p
 
Some games they can be pretty fun as they require you to do something difficult, like some of the Left 4 Dead 2 ones but the majority of GFWLs are terrible, also useless as you can just download files to give you achievements for free on GFWL, can't wait til they stop putting that crap in games (gfwl that is).

I don't bother with achievements anymore, too many "Grats, heres a achievement for poking your nose", heres another for scratching your arse, what the hell!, heres one for the lulz......"
 
FrenchTart said:
As much as I don't massively care about achievements and do think that having an obsession about them can be a bit OTT, I think some of the reactions in this thread are pretty harsh. No need to be so elitist - at least the OP has moved from console gaming to PC gaming ;)
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True.... But then OCUK is a pretty harsh place at times. A lot of knowledgeable folks on here but they do like to mock at times. He’ll either get used to this, or just stop posting..!!

And members on here being so elitist is just in their nature and they certainly do kick when they read something along the lines of -

"I got all Fallout 3 achievements by using a console cheat".. Poor chap never stood a chance.

As for achievements, in general they do actually help to give a game some longevity however I also agree that some achievements are just a total waste of time.. Depends on the targets to earn such achievements. They must be semi popular. Steam has adapted them in their titles.. Or shall I say valve has them in steamworks and their own titles...
 
i think you guys may have scared the op away.......

anywho yeah achievements are fine if it's for doing something skillful but the constant games who give you one for completing the tutoria etcl? i mean come on how is that an achievement in any way shape or form?
 
Demoniser said:
It amounts to the same thing does it not?

If people buy their games to play them = money

If people play their games, they buy more of their games/content (wow achievements spring to mind, being a month by month pay scheme.) = money

both results get them lots of money one way or the other. .

Either way you look at it, it's win win for developers.
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Thats not the point...

Achievements are for a large part, a complete joke. Yahtzee's review on Duke Nukem Forever is pretty good at explaining why. They are called achievements but so far from an achievement its ridiculous. What they really are are progress reports. Fallout 3 has 12 achievements dedicated to reaching a certain level with a certain karma orientation. 1 achievement per quest. *3* achievements for completing THE INTRO! And very few other achievements. Ok they encourage you to explore the whole game which is good, but they don't encourage anything else, the only real exception is kill all 5 Behemoths.
 
I gave up on achievements after I got the L4D2 Gnome all the way to the helicopter on hardest difficulty but the lone survivor in our team didn't pick it up when it was RIGHT THERE!!! (/calm). So frustrating lol.
 
iv-tecman said:
True.... But then OCUK is a pretty harsh place at times. A lot of knowledgeable folks on here but they do like to mock at times. He’ll either get used to this, or just stop posting..!!

And members on here being so elitist is just in their nature and they certainly do kick when they read something along the lines of -

"I got all Fallout 3 achievements by using a console cheat".. Poor chap never stood a chance.

As for achievements, in general they do actually help to give a game some longevity however I also agree that some achievements are just a total waste of time.. Depends on the targets to earn such achievements. They must be semi popular. Steam has adapted them in their titles.. Or shall I say valve has them in steamworks and their own titles...
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Ah, true. I didn't notice that line somehow.


MonkeykingZX said:
i think you guys may have scared the op away.......

anywho yeah achievements are fine if it's for doing something skillful but the constant games who give you one for completing the tutoria etcl? i mean come on how is that an achievement in any way shape or form?
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That depends. Some tutorials are so goddamn tedious that you should definitely be awarded an achievement for staying awake through them.
 
Achievements can be useful if the developer implements ones that aren't too easy and stupid.
For example the Steam achievements for Defence grid: awakening are great(well the higher tier ones, there challenging also.
 
FrenchTart said:
That depends. Some tutorials are so goddamn tedious that you should definitely be awarded an achievement for staying awake through them.
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I like the achievements on "The Simpsons Game" on the 360, you get points for pushing the start button :D

And the achievements in TF2 are pretty good fun too, instead of just wadding through the game the same each time, it encourages a bit of variation/improvement of game play.
 
I think achievements (xbox live, steam etc) are a nice benefit to our games, it gives an impression of how much you play and how far you've progressed in a game, it gives the user more of a persona/history.

I agree with it varying gameplay and seeing them as challenges, wouldn't say I sit there trying to unlock them all though.
 
This has a whiff of ocd about it...I like MMO's but have never understood the "collectors" or ones who had to do every little mind numbing quest so they could "complete them all". If there's no reward or purpose to it I'm not interested, life's too short!

Oh and cheating to "achieve" is ridiculous!
 
unknownsock said:
Achievements can be useful if the developer implements ones that aren't too easy and stupid.
For example the Steam achievements for Defence grid: awakening are great(well the higher tier ones, there challenging also.
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Some of them are annoying though. Like 'Nail Biter' where you have to fail miserably and barely survive the level to get it which seems a bit dodgy. I'm gonna have to buy the mappacks at some point.
 
Absolutely priceless - the fact that this type of thing would be common place on the console forum, but every pc player thinks it's completely sad.


Gotta be honest I have never got achievements at all, most of them seem to be ridiculous challanges which frankly arn't fun and require you to play the game in a different way then the developers intended.
 
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