I don't think they do.
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I don't think they do.
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As you say its all relative. When I was first learning to drive, I thought my driving instructors 306 1.6 was "fast". And a few years later when I had my 106 XSi I thought it was pretty quick.
When moving to something faster your opinions quickly move on as you have more a comparison to base things on. I guess it completely depends on what sort of machinery you are used to, and have driven in the past.
To me now, a fast car would be something that can touch 60 in under 6ish seconds and get to 100 quickly, as I've never owned a car that can do that. I should think quite a few people on here would not call that particularly fast.
When moving to something faster your opinions quickly move on as you have more a comparison to base things on. I guess it completely depends on what sort of machinery you are used to, and have driven in the past.
To me now, a fast car would be something that can touch 60 in under 6ish seconds and get to 100 quickly, as I've never owned a car that can do that. I should think quite a few people on here would not call that particularly fast.
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Sorry they are around 10.8s, still night and day faster than an A5 diesel though which takes in the region of 16s. But if you compared 0-60mph the difference is far less which might make some believe an A5 Diesel would keep up quite well with an F355 wheras in reality it won't stand a chance.....
R&T tested 5 different F355 over the years (including the F1) and never bettered 11.3.
I deliberately removed any mention of an A5 diesel from your quote because I would not argue that the A5 is anywhere near as fast as it. Because 4.6secs compared to 5.9secs is not remotely close and to me, doesn't hint that the A5 would not get battered up to 100mph either.
The GT3 has a better bhp/ton but the SL65 has enough torque to pull you of bed with Eva Mendes. It's what it's good at, big push at big speed.
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Fast is whatever puts a smile on your face and the desire to jump right back in the second you've left the car.
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Fast to me is something that makes me feel alert and alive. Unfortunately this is usually at speeds that are above the speed limit.
You've seen how I ride my bike - basically like that, all the time!
For me it's always going to be a bike that represents fast. Whilst having been in some fairly nifty cars a bike's power to weight ratio just propels it to the top of my list.
I think something that makes you think "oh ****" - is quick. I can't put a number on it really.
You've seen how I ride my bike - basically like that, all the time!
For me it's always going to be a bike that represents fast. Whilst having been in some fairly nifty cars a bike's power to weight ratio just propels it to the top of my list.
I think something that makes you think "oh ****" - is quick. I can't put a number on it really.
I thought the SL65 was 600ish. Either way, when you put it like that and ignore the power to weight ratio, that's a healthy margin.
Good thread though, interesting to see what some people regard as quick and others don't and the parameters used.
I've never ever experienced a bike. Do "proper" bikes actually FEEL quick when you're accelerating at full chat? Or do you need to be looking at the speedo in order to see the speed climbing? Part of me thinks all the weight and surrounding metal of a car helps with the whole "shove" you get when you accelerate
It was a tweaked SL65 and clocked over 211mph with the roof down at VMax!
See, *that* is fast, albeit in a straight line. The standing mile events in the US are getting more popular and competitive and some of the terminals are just ridiculous. If we use that sort of performance as a yardstick, you can whittle down properly fast cars to a tiny percentage of road going cars, which is exactly how I think it should be.
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Even my bike at over 670 bhp/tonne feels quick. You don't get that big torque kick, but you get a huge surge of speed increase for 14,000 rpm until you change gear, and then it just keeps accelerating. You do get a sense of speed, because the world starts passing you very quickly.
Some of the big litre bikes have in excess of 900/bhp tonne heading towards 1000bhp/tonne onwards.
When you can do 0-100 a shade over 5s you know you're holding on for dear life!
You just can't imagine or realise the sheer surge in speed increase and the relentless acceleration.
My GT3 did 158mph from a standing start in 3/4 mile, it would not have gone any quicker, I pretty much got the most from it in 4 runs.
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Absolutely feel fast. Bear in mind you're in the wind, you can hear it, the wind will push you back as well as the acceleration if you don't tuck, you get all the buffeting. That and everything in the mirrors starts getting small quick.
I find about 130 is where it starts feeling a bit wheeeeey, speed wise. If you know what I mean.
That's when my bum starts chewing my trousers a bit anyway.
It's all very relative, a fast car is only fast until you've been in something faster.
You could have been in the fastest car in the world, but then a Jet would be faster,all relative.
Been in plenty exotica at work (Main dealer German/Italian stuff (not been in teh458 thats in yet) and yes, I'd say some of them are "fast", but "fast" isn't all about engine power.
You could have been in the fastest car in the world, but then a Jet would be faster,all relative.
Been in plenty exotica at work (Main dealer German/Italian stuff (not been in teh458 thats in yet) and yes, I'd say some of them are "fast", but "fast" isn't all about engine power.
My bike is fast to me - only an ER-6F so nothing like Freefaller's kit - but get the first gear change right and it will get you to 100 before most cars are thinking about reaching 60. My E90 325 on the other hand doesn't feel quick at all.
Quick to me on the bike is when I noticeably have to really concentrate - not just pay attention but really focus on maintaining control. If I reached that feeling in the BMW I'd have to be driving like a complete tool.
Quick to me on the bike is when I noticeably have to really concentrate - not just pay attention but really focus on maintaining control. If I reached that feeling in the BMW I'd have to be driving like a complete tool.