Inattentive parents?
Girl crushed to death by electric gate.
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Inattentive parents?
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Thick uneducated kids/brats, and parents with the parenting skills of a dehyrdated snail.
I wish I was rich enough to have a large drive with electric gates, I think I would wire them up so they snapped shut in a clanging, ferocious manner, perhaps trapping tramps, chavs, and burglars too.
The positive to take from this is that the poor little girl has probably been saved from a life of drugs and poverty.
The mum looks like shes on crack.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10469314.stm
I do feel somewhat sorry for the girl though, even though I lol'd. Thankfully she is in a better place now, may god rest her soul.
You should ask why he was squeezing through the gates really.
Is there any info on WHY she was stuck between the gate and the brick post? It seems like a very off chance thing to happen... Why aren't they telling us the entire story?
The site's still under construction, afaik none of the flats are occupied yet, I'll have a mooch around when I get back home tomorrow.
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I don't see how you can blame the gate. The gate is designed to be a security feature, and I don't see why it should have a clutch put on it, though I guess the the gate could be designed to be ornamental and more for "adding to the property" rather than anything else.
Gates and moving machinery in general is dangerous. Hence why in places of work you have "warning, machinery may start at any time" or "danger of crushing" H&S signs stuck on them.
The number of adults killed by such things is probably hardly existent.
Kids don't know the difference and are naturally inquisitive but also don't see the "bigger picture".
It's a tragic accident, but that's I'm afraid all it is, an accident. Placing blame on the gate, or the parent is unfair. Whilst I'm not a parent i've looked after many kids of similar ages upwards, and it's amazing what they get up to if you don't keep a steely eye on them every minute of every hour of every day.
Gates and moving machinery in general is dangerous. Hence why in places of work you have "warning, machinery may start at any time" or "danger of crushing" H&S signs stuck on them.
The number of adults killed by such things is probably hardly existent.
Kids don't know the difference and are naturally inquisitive but also don't see the "bigger picture".
It's a tragic accident, but that's I'm afraid all it is, an accident. Placing blame on the gate, or the parent is unfair. Whilst I'm not a parent i've looked after many kids of similar ages upwards, and it's amazing what they get up to if you don't keep a steely eye on them every minute of every hour of every day.
To stop people dying?
It's plainly obvious a gate of such design is a death trap as evidenced by this and numerous other cases. Better watch your step as a fall could end your life with these things around.
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You only need to be rich enough to live in 'flats off Maine Road in Moss Side'. There are blocks of flats springing up in my town with resident parking behind electric gates, for example. They're not mansions with large drives, they're apartments with a reserved space.
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To stop people dying?
It's plainly obvious a gate of such design is a death trap as evidenced by this and numerous other cases. Better watch your step as a fall could end your life with these things around.
That's why I don't try and squeeze past a closing gate. Our gates at work weigh several tonnes - no way in hell I'm stepping in between them, besides, they are for vehicles NOT for human walkways.
If adults are stupid enough to try and slip past a closing gate, more fool them.
The unfortunate and tragic deaths have been of kids, who don't know what mechanical machinery is. It really is that simple - a security manufacturer is not going to compromise their gates for the sake of a couple of deaths. I certainly wouldn't. It's tragic, and sad, and I really really feel for the parents, but also I'm being pragmatic about it - and say that the gates are fit for purpose, but human error caused the death not the design.
Gates are there for security, not designed to stop kids dying.
this is the pic of the gate
doesn't look like a flashy electric gate with sensors, this gate looks like it used for construction sites, i think the question of whether there are H&S pictures around the gate warning that there is heavy machinery, if there is then some of the responsibility is on the parent.
this is from the bbc newsite : She was playing with her friend when she became trapped in the gate, Ms Gilroy said.
"Maybe she thought she could just get through it and it closed on her," she said.
why did her mother think it would be ok for her child to play with an electric gate?
sad news though
doesn't look like a flashy electric gate with sensors, this gate looks like it used for construction sites, i think the question of whether there are H&S pictures around the gate warning that there is heavy machinery, if there is then some of the responsibility is on the parent.
this is from the bbc newsite : She was playing with her friend when she became trapped in the gate, Ms Gilroy said.
"Maybe she thought she could just get through it and it closed on her," she said.
why did her mother think it would be ok for her child to play with an electric gate?
sad news though
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It wouldn't compromise the gate though, it would be no easier to break into than it otherwise would be.
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Sorry but what you are saying is a load of tosh
You should consider what the intent of the product is for and what the surrounding environment is for, housing = kids / disabled / general public / emergency services etc, I think the CDM regs cover this. We have to consider all of those, as I said previously consideration should have been given to the Gneral Public
The £20k gate as I described before is suitable for entrances to industrial units etc but a residential gate should have the additional safety features installed, they are there as an option for a reason, what has happened is either the safety features wern't working allthough the gate should never have been working = fail safe or they were never put on as to expensive, all of £5k
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This! LOL
Made my morning! (for 30 secs)
FEARRRRRRRRRR THEMMMMMMMM!! (in a Brian Blessed Voice)
TBF it does look like a really menacing gate. The sort of gate that would reduce grown men to quivering wrecks once the crush mode is activated!!
DEATH GATES, CRUSH MODE ACTIVATE!
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They do they are locked in the control box or in reception areas, on a resi scheme with no concierge it all needs to be automated and also secure so the only way the gates are controlled are the fobs then the IR beams to close and also any safety feature, secure by design SBD gates for parking areas are quite strict in their allowance of the controls to open / close usually only by fobs / swipe