** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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It's the only way Man City can compete with the top 4, paying fees that no other club in the world can match, this includes Madrid and Barcelona.

Paying 150k+ a week to players like Silva and Toure which no other club would match.
 
I like Yaya as a player (and he would have been great at the other Manchester club) but that is ridiculous money for one player even if he does pay £120k or more a week in tax

Chelsea could compete if they wanted to (but rightfully dont), no other club in Britain can even contemplate wages like that

Of course we are presuming the british press are correct...........lol
 
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Hernandez and former Fulham defender Chris Smalling look like being the only new United faces next season.

Ferguson added: 'We've looked at a few options. We did consider David Villa but he was always going to Barcelona. I just don't believe there is value out there at the moment. I'm very happy with the strength of our squad as it is.

any team who comes to rely upon John Oshea, wellbeck, and the rest of the carp we churn out does NOT have sufficient strength in depth. im sorry, but thats the truth. we have a b team of vastly inferior players who have managed to survivve at the cub for far too long due to the distinct lack of quality outside our top 13-14 players.

im reading planet football and rene muslteweiner is trying tio convince forlan to come back to UTD...

i mean if this is the extent of our ambition - then we really are doomed. forget going after Villa, Ozil, Fabregas (insert any other player here, PATO for instance) just stick to old cast offs and people like smalling who when i saw him play looked absolutely terrible..?
 
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Let's say Spurs win their qualifying games for the Champions League, I'm wondering whether they will have a fit enough squad to last the entire season fighting to keep their 4th spot all the while competing in the CL and going for the cup runs that they usual do, I don't think their squad will be upto it, especially Woodgate and King.

AND BREATHE :p

Spurs have one of the biggest squads in the league, and managed fine with Woodgate crocked all season. Our options at CB are arguably richer than anyone else in the league. We have King, Woodgate, Dawson, Bassong, Kaboul with Corluka and Huddlestone able to play there too. There's talk of us going or Kjaer which if he is as good as his price tag suggests will mean King's long term replacement and the end of Woodgate's Spurs career.

Man City can just buy cover but I don't see Mancini being the man to make them genuine Premier League contenders, I also don't see Liverpool competing next season the way things are going off the pitch for them but then I guess that's just speculation, Roy Hodgson could work wonders and they could be back where they were 2 seasons ago.

I wouldn't write anyone off (though I wrote off Liverpool after their first league game last season and said they really missed Alonso, guess I was right) every team in the top 6 is looking good.

Chelsea - can't see past them for a 2nd straight title
Man Utd - ageing squad, too much reliance on the old dogs will do well to finish 2nd
Arsenal - defensive crisis IMO, Wenger needs to get his cheque book out and get it right or they could be in trouble
Spurs - squad has good experience in the UEFA cup, but European hangovers will push the squad, will do well to stay top 4.
Man City - lots of cash buying up talent, but will it work?
Liverpool - Post Benitez will they hang on to their talismans? If not they can only get worse with Hodgson looking to bargains to fill the gaps.

The same top 6 finishing positions for me.

Then there's Villa and Everton who are both great teams, but just not quite got the quality or depth to compete for the whole length of the season.
 
The same was said last season, and not much has changed. Even if Toure and Silva really take them up a notch, it will be another season before they really gel as a team.
 
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I actually think Spurs will finish ahead of City this season, I just don't rate Mancini at all, If I remember correctly, which I probably don't, weren't his finest achievements in Italy overshadowed by the corruption scandals at the time? Also at points last season he just looked totally out of his depth. He's a good character, but I think he needs to get his players properly organised come August. The likes of Spurs, Villa and Everton have familiar faces on the training ground in contrast to City's chop and change over the past two seasons. I don't see who they are building their team around at the moment. I would've thought Ireland but then it seems he's been a bit left out in the cold.

I don't see why Spurs can't keep 4th place but I think it would be a mistake to immediately go for glory on every front, Spurs look a bit short of forwards and I think injuries at certain points, like what happened with us last season could be devastating for them in regards to staying in the Champions League spots. I'm tipping Everton to come back strongly as well, don't know if they've made any signings but Donovan would be a decent one if Moyes can bring him in on another loan or permanent move, he's not going to improve in the Mickey Mouse league, he might as well come over here even though the weather is usually crap.

It's going to be very close in my opinion but I think the top four as they are now, will stay as they are now. City will be a force, no doubt, but I don't think that this is the season that will happen, with only around 6 weeks to the start of the new season I don't think that's anywhere near enough time for City to prepare.
 
Man Utd - ageing squad, too much reliance on the old dogs will do well to finish 2nd

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Da silva brothers, Johnny Evans, Vidic, Nani, Valencia, Macheda, Rooney. Evra all under thirty (if not under 20) all with many years ahead of them, not to mention any youngsters that are hopefully blooded this season

All consistantly in the first team squad when available if not playing as first choice, Rio may not play much but thats due to injury rather than age

dont fool yourself into thinking all Utd players are the age of VDS, Giggs and Scholes (edit - ok I forgot to include Neville, but the players nearing retirement are stilll outnumbered vastly by the players ready to step up for blooding)
 
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How much did Scholes and Giggs contribute last season, I was under the impression that they were still key players?
 
any team who comes to rely upon John Oshea, wellbeck, and the rest of the carp we churn out does NOT have sufficient strength in depth. im sorry, but thats the truth. we have a b team of vastly inferior players who have managed to survivve at the cub for far too long due to the distinct lack of quality outside our top 13-14 players.

im reading planet football and rene muslteweiner is trying tio convince forlan to come back to UTD...

i mean if this is the extent of our ambition - then we really are doomed. forget going after Villa, Ozil, Fabregas (insert any other player here, PATO for instance) just stick to old cast offs and people like smalling who when i saw him play looked absolutely terrible..?

All the times he mentions "value" I just think "Berbatoss, 30 million ******* quid" and dismiss his musings on the transfer market as utter rubbish.
 
How much did Scholes and Giggs contribute last season, I was under the impression that they were still key players?

a squad is 25 players - just because 2 are nearing retirement doesnt make the whole squad "ageing" as you put it , however many games those players contribute in

Hopefully a fully fit Hargreaves can replace the more defensive deployment of Scholes this season, giving Fletcher a bigger license to push forward (as Scholes cant tackle)

Stilll question marks over Carrick and Anderson (from the press anyway) whether they will still be in the squad come game against Newcastle, but if they are sold I cant imagine Utd not having replacement deals in place of some kind

Other than scholes goal against city last year, precisely nothing.

Be fair to Giggs - he did a lot of decent stuff last season

http://www.redcafe.net/f6/statistics-2009-10-a-280677/

(according to the above it was 4 goals and 12 assists for RG, which isnt too bad for 21 appearances incl 5 sub), and 6 goals and 5 assists for Scholes in 22 appearances)
 
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Scholes and Giggs both scored really crucial goals last season. Giggs had a terrible run in after that injury against Villa but he started very well.
 
a squad is 25 players - just because 2 are nearing retirement doesnt make the whole squad "ageing" as you put it , however many games those players contribute in

Scholes and Giggs are still key players for you, when they go who will replace them? They are both amazing players that will leave a void.

Hopefully a fully fit Hargreaves can replace the more defensive deployment of Scholes this season, giving Fletcher a bigger license to push forward (as Scholes cant tackle)

Scholes can tackle, it just involves receiving a card whenever he does. :D

Fletcher is a good player, but a complete midfielder good enough to grace a top teams first 11 he isn't.

Stilll question marks over Carrick and Anderson (from the press anyway) whether they will still be in the squad come game against Newcastle, but if they are sold I cant imagine Utd not having replacement deals in place of some kind

I got the impression people were slating Carrick all over the shop last season?
 
Scholes and Giggs are still key players for you, when they go who will replace them? They are both amazing players that will leave a void.?

your original point was the whole SQUAD is agiing - which is what I pointed out is definitely NOT the case

Im not disputing some kind of void will occur (Park may get more games, but is a squad player admittedly) unless they are replaced immediately - both are still capable of playing a fulll season, whether individual performances may not always be up to scratch

Fletcher is a good player, but a complete midfielder good enough to grace a top teams first 11 he isn't.

You are entitled to your opinion - but imo he would walk into a starting central midfield position of all the premiership clubs baring probably Chelsea (and even then given Essien's injury last season, Fletcher would be a good opption ot have had - admittedly this is debatable but imo fair comment)

I got the impression people were slating Carrick all over the shop last season?

After being a crucial part of the team for three years in succession and winning the title, he didnt have a great season no, but it cant just be put on his head why the team lost certain matches (people just like to have a scapegoat)
 
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