LIES: I told them I'm working but I'm not

If all you have done is send them a CV I would simply call them before the interview and tell them you sent them an old CV that you did while you were employed by the old company....,

say you are sorry about the mistake and do they still want you for an interview.

I would also some how add you are very excited about the role and hope this does not effect your chances (they want to employ someone who wants the job, not someone who is jsut desperate for a job)
 
Just fill out the form with the correct info - dont say anything - and if they mention it just say your CV was out of date. Simples.
 
jak731 said:
If they do find out at a later date and fire you for it, you will become essentially unemployable.
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I'm sorry but that's absolute rubbish. If that was the case then half the country would be unemployed. Most of us stretch the truth in interviews. When you go for an interview and they ask something like "have you ever work on a project with X software" most of us would say yes even if we've only used it once, then if we get the job we read up on it and then figure it out as we go along. It's called blagging and most of us do it.
 
ajf said:
Interesting post.
I was also recently made redundant. Does it really make much difference to a new employer whether you are now unemployed or not?
Surely, if anything that would help as they can see why you are applying?
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I would say the key is to stress in your own words "you are very excited about this role"

they want a person who WANTS the position the dont want someone who is jsut desperate for a job.
 
edscdk said:
If all you have done is send them a CV I would simply call them before the interview and tell them you sent them an old CV that you did while you were employed by the old company....,

say you are sorry about the mistake and do they still want you for an interview.

I would also some how add you are very excited about the role and hope this does not effect your chances (they want to employ someone who wants the job, not someone who is jsut desperate for a job)
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probably the best advice. always best to be honet and upfront about things, otherwise it can make for an unsavoury workplace if they know you lied on an application. As jak371 said, they could fire you (especially if you fill out the subsequent forms indicating that you were still employed) if they find out, but they'd most likely just be annoyed with you.
 
If you haven't filled any forms stating that you still work for your former company don't worry. Just fill in the right information and if they ask you just say the truth. In regards to CV's interview etc you can always say they were out of date/pretend you did tell them and it was a miscommunication etc etc.

You worry too much about it. Either way it's not as if you have anything better lined up so just go along telling the truth to all official paperwork.
 
Amp34 said:
No, use a reference from your previous company...

Loads of people misplace their P45's juss means you get put on emergency tax for a while until it all catches up AFAIK.
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References by default are from the previous company, and by default they have to confirm what dates you worked there.

If you fake the P46 and say that you were employed, the Inland Revenue will wonder why the employers didn't pay any of their contributions (both Income tax and National Insurance), you will then be in trouble with your previous company, your new company AND the tax man.

Still think it's a smart move? Go right ahead.
 
I have given co-workers as references for all my jobs, since everwhere I work goes bancrupt! <nothing to do with me>

never ever been questioned about it... they seem happy to speak to any random person I worked with..

last two jobs never even bothered contating them..

maybe this is jsut a common thing in larger IT companies...?
 
Mr^B said:
References by default are from the previous company, and by default they have to confirm what dates you worked there.

If you fake the P46 and say that you were employed, the Inland Revenue will wonder why the employers didn't pay any of their contributions (both Income tax and National Insurance), you will then be in trouble with your previous company, your new company AND the tax man.

Still think it's a smart move? Go right ahead.
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Where am I saying fake your P46?:confused:

I said just say you lost your p45...:rolleyes:
 
Tell the truth - they will obtain a reference from your previous employer which will have the dates of your previous employement. Also the P45 info will be given to the new employer when you join and if there's a mismatch you run the risk of getting fired.
 
A lot of ill-informed people in this thread :/

Those suggesting you just don't tell someone you were employed then fired... how are you supposed to blag that one? The one thing that happens when you cannot provide proof of employment/unemployment is simply this: You are assumed to have served time and don't want to inform them.
 
Amp34 said:
Where am I saying fake your P46?:confused:

I said just say you lost your p45...:rolleyes:
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Your P46 will still reveal that you claimed JSA. If you lie on your P46, the inland revenue will prosecute you.
You really need to learn about these things before encouraging others to lie. :rolleyes:
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Your P46 will still reveal that you claimed JSA. If you lie on your P46, the inland revenue will prosecute you.
You really need to learn about these things before encouraging others to lie. :rolleyes:
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I should have just left them to it, frankly.

Natural selection at its best.
 
jesus christ!!!

And I wonder why so many people on this forum dont have a job.

Being sweet and honest doesnt get you diddly squat in this world, especially in a recession.

The CV is just to get your bum to the interview, lie all you want, 90% of my CV is complete false with jobs missing ive done, jobs ive never done and qualifications that dont exist.

You want to know why, id rather risk getting caught in an interview than never getting an interview.

Most people blag, its just how far they are willing to go to get what they want, gambitt is right.

If im going for a job im not qualified for but i know i can do it, or learn it within a short space of time then ill put on my CV im qualified/experienced because im not prepared to sit on the dole for having good morals.

You see people saying they have been unemployed for months and theres no work, thats rubbish, you just arnt getting your cv to stand out from the rest.

I live in stoke which on the news the other night has one of the worst unemployment in the country and has been worst hit by the recessions, i got made redundant recently and took me 1 week to find a job, is my CV and application form true......nope....but would i have got the job without 'adjusting it'....nope.


No offence but some people need to open there eyes a little and bend the rules to win, no one gets a prize for coming last.

On the OPs issue, i would just keep going along with what he originally told them.
Fill a p46 because you dont have a p45, on a p46 you dont have to mention previous work at all, just that its your one and only job.

Impress in the interview and ill bet the dates wont even come up, as long as you get a good reference from your previous employer you should be fine.


Im sure i should put my flame suit on after people read this and thats fine, but remember one thing......im the type of guy your competing against, there are many like me who will lie, cheat and steal to get that job, you may not like it, but its fact.
 
turbotoaster said:
jesus christ!!!

And I wonder why so many people on this forum dont have a job.

Being sweet and honest doesnt get you diddly squat in this world, especially in a recession.

The CV is just to get your bum to the interview, lie all you want, 90% of my CV is complete false with jobs missing ive done, jobs ive never done and qualifications that dont exist.

You want to know why, id rather risk getting caught in an interview than never getting an interview.

Most people blag, its just how far they are willing to go to get what they want, gambitt is right.

If im going for a job im not qualified for but i know i can do it, or learn it within a short space of time then ill put on my CV im qualified/experienced because im not prepared to sit on the dole for having good morals.

You see people saying they have been unemployed for months and theres no work, thats rubbish, you just arnt getting your cv to stand out from the rest.

I live in stoke which on the news the other night has one of the worst unemployment in the country and has been worst hit by the recessions, i got made redundant recently and took me 1 week to find a job, is my CV and application form true......nope....but would i have got the job without 'adjusting it'....nope.


No offence but some people need to open there eyes a little and bend the rules to win, no one gets a prize for coming last.

On the OPs issue, i would just keep going along with what he originally told them.
Fill a p46 because you dont have a p45, on a p46 you dont have to mention previous work at all, just that its your one and only job.

Impress in the interview and ill bet the dates wont even come up, as long as you get a good reference from your previous employer you should be fine.


Im sure i should put my flame suit on after people read this and thats fine, but remember one thing......im the type of guy your competing against, there are many like me who will lie, cheat and steal to get that job, you may not like it, but its fact.
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And it's because of complete tools like this, kids, that we live in such a ****ed up world.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Your P46 will still reveal that you claimed JSA. If you lie on your P46, the inland revenue will prosecute you.
You really need to learn about these things before encouraging others to lie. :rolleyes:
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Perhaps, but losing your P45 is not the same as falsifying your P46.

Interestingly I've worked for a couple of national chains and never handed in a P45 or filled in a P46...

(And yes I did pay tax, well NI as I wasn't over the IT limit)
 
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