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Why buy a 480 instead of 460's in SLI

HW91 said:
^ yes, iirc just above 480 clocks will give the 470 equal performance,

although some other people have said ~800MHz for 480 performance, although that should be easy providing your case is fairly well ventilated (I run my pc with the side off since I don't mind the noise and when gaming use headphones) and some people get 875MHz on air
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good enough case?

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take no notice of those articals u want to do a google search for flashing 470 gtx to 480 bios will bring up another forum that will tell u how to get the 480s speeds

basically flashing a 470 with a 480 bios lets u up the voltage on your 470 so u can go up to 900 on the core but u will use up to 1.210v got to be done under water thou air dont cut it


also the 480's bios tweaks the memory voltage so u can tweak up to 2100 before it starts going nuts

and its not going to brick your card and will still show up as a 470 in gpu z
 
@jonneymendoza

should be

@hlennie
what's the point in going for 900 (some get 940 on water) with 1.21v when you can get 820 for 1.05v or sometimes 875 for 1.087v without having to spend an extra £70 + P&P on a water block + WCS which will be £100 to £300

also it can brick your card so why do it along with the other reasons I gave?
 
480gtx evga now it stock for £422 in place i cant mention however i may buy from ocuk but i have heard horror stories about them in the past but of recent, seems reliable.

The place thats selling for £422 use to be good but i heard they practicaly **** u about when you RMA a product after a year giving u a half baked version of the card you use to own
 
maybe the GTX470 can if the GTX480 was at stock.


Also I m guessing that the GTX460s have quite a bit of overclocking head room, put them in SLI than you pretty much got what you have with HD5770...a cracking setup in other words and down to a price
 
you be very unlucky to brick your card but hey thats the risk with any thing u flash

yes u can get 820 with the lower voltages but your memorys not going to go much over 1700 with out crashing or a driver recovery

and i also said up to 1.21 v every cards going to be diff

for instance mine is 875 core 2100 mem @ 1.13v

u run a 470 @ 875 and it will just overheat on air and will just throttle itself, you will also be using 100% fan

i managed 830 on air @ 1.087v but pushed the temps to the max and would throttle if the game or benchmark pushed it to hard hit a 109C on one card found there can be a differance of about 10c between cards on air cooled

the guys who are pushing over 900 are using extra caps soldered to their boards look like dreadlocked cards if u look at the pictures

but every ones cards wont be same some will be really good clockers some will need that extra kick and need the water cooling and since i have been water cooling since the 8800gtx
its the way i went

get a pair and we shall see how yours fair
 
dont know a thing about the 460's they are a different gpu all together less transistors it might be a good clocker

be intresting to see how far they will go
 
hlennie said:
take no notice of those articals u want to do a google search for flashing 470 gtx to 480 bios will bring up another forum that will tell u how to get the 480s speeds

basically flashing a 470 with a 480 bios lets u up the voltage on your 470 so u can go up to 900 on the core but u will use up to 1.210v got to be done under water thou air dont cut it


also the 480's bios tweaks the memory voltage so u can tweak up to 2100 before it starts going nuts

and its not going to brick your card and will still show up as a 470 in gpu z
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I get what your saying, but and its a big but a GTX470 + water block - warranty = 5870.
 
jigger whos going to know that its under water u think they going to take your card apart to check if its been watercooled they only test to see if it works or not

sorry but 470 clocks better than a 5870 i have one and clocked that to 900 and all in all the 470 a lot smoother for games and drivers less of a pain

dont get me wrong 5870 is a nice peace of kit but im getting better FPS min and max with the 470 and in sli its the dogs
 
jigger said:
I get what your saying, but and its a big but a GTX470 + water block - warranty = 5870.
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Ah, but a well overclocked GTX470 will beat a well overclocked 5870. In the 'I've got a GTX460 thread' RavenXXX2 says in the Heaven bench (stock settings, 1680x1050 res) that his 5870 at 1000 core will get 40.9fps.

The stock GTX460 got 37.5fps. My overclocked GTX470 (850 core, 1930 memory) gets 43.9 (may have to run a few times to properly verify this I guess) fps.

Stands to reason that a GTX470 is better than a 5870 when both overclocked. I do not know however whether Raven's overclock is that high.
 
hlennie said:
jigger whos going to know that its under water u think they going to take your card apart to check if its been watercooled they only test to see if it works or not

sorry but 470 clocks better than a 5870 i have one and clocked that to 900 and all in all the 470 a lot smoother for games and drivers less of a pain

dont get me wrong 5870 is a nice peace of kit but im getting better FPS min and max with the 470 and in sli its the dogs
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Anybody that inspects the card properly will tell. Sapphire, XFX, EVGA and ASUS are all know to refuse RMA exchanges due to signs of heatsink removal.

Fair enough you think the GTX470 is a good card, but I don't think its worth the hassle or risk when £285 gets you a better card.
 
Marvin said:
Ah, but a well overclocked GTX470 will beat a well overclocked 5870. In the 'I've got a GTX460 thread' RavenXXX2 says in the Heaven bench (stock settings, 1680x1050 res) that his 5870 at 1000 core will get 40.9fps.

The stock GTX460 got 37.5fps. My overclocked GTX470 (850 core, 1930 memory) gets 43.9 (may have to run a few times to properly verify this I guess) fps.

Stands to reason that a GTX470 is better than a 5870 when both overclocked. I do not know however whether Raven's overclock is that high.
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Ehh, that's the heaven bench, it's nothing to do with games performance, I bet my vantage score crushes your 470 score lol.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=2168514
 
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RavenXXX2 said:
Not all games scale well in SLI so at worst you could be left at a single 460's performance in a game, saying that I personaly would go 460 SLI at 1920x1200 or below rez, even at stock it is faster than a 480 so overclocked they will rock even more, they run a lot cooler and I would say not much more power used over a 480 as well.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/07/12/nvidia_geforce_gtx_460_sli_performance_followup/
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Sorry to play devil's advocate there: I noticed you pasted the conclusion, which talks about the framerate, which is definitely positive. Yet literally directly above that there's a section *in the same review* that talks about the subjective perception, that's not so positive.

HardOCP review said:
Raw performance numbers aside, there were some differences in the character of gameplay that I would like to address here. None of this is uncommon with SLI (or even CrossFireX), but I think it is worth repeating. Though the GTX 460 SLI setup gave us higher framerates across the board than the GTX 480, the GTX 480 in some places we experienced a more fluid gameplay quality. With SLI, there is a certain amount of overhead involved in managing the two video cards, dividing workload, and copying data between them. At the worst of times, this can result in diminished potential. It was most noticeable in Singularity, wherein there was noticeable input lag with the GTX 460 SLI setup. It wasn’t particularly severe, and it did not render that configuration unplayable, but it was there and you could "feel" it. Of course, Singularity had another performance anomaly as shown in our graph above, so it could be related. Metro 2033 and BFBC2 were affected somewhat as well, but it was less severe. Framerates are not the end all be all to performance when playing with SLI and CrossFireX, you truly have to pay attention to fluidity, responsiveness and consistency of the game as you play.
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Just putting it out there!
 
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