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How much performance does the 5870 have left?

opethdisciple

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As the title says, if I buy a 5870 now, do you think I will have a good 2 years of very good performance?

Or is it, old tech already, and best wait for the 6000 series?

Primarily, for tomorrows DX11 games, will I be enjoying near max settings at 1920x1200 for at least 2 years?
 
I personally would wait with SI coming this year, and unless you can get a 5870 very cheap then it's a lot of money for a card coming towards the end of it's life cycle.

Tessellation should logically get a boost with SI seeing as that is one area where ATI are weaker. So depending on how heavily DX11 features are implemented in coming games, waiting now might pay off in the long run.
 
Yea, Iv been wating and waiting since September, so I will wait some more!

Its summer now any way, so not much use will get out of it.

I can get a 5870 for £265 however, which is a nice price.
 
£265 is a nice price, but history has told us that first gen DX parts have always showed their age eventually. Even Fermi will seem slow in Tessellation when the next line of cards come out i think, Nvidia are supposed to be pushing heavily on geometry processing.

If you don't intend to spend much time gaming for the next few months i would definitely wait. I think prices on ATI cards will only come down from now on, Nvidia have some competition out and also ATI will want to get rid of as much 5800 inventory as they can as SI launch gets closer.
 
I have my doubts about SI. It is a design that was first thought to be made on a 32nm process.

Either ATI will create a huge chip or at the best case scenario something bigger than their current chip. That would mean high prices. I hope we don't end up with another 2900.
 
Isn't Northern Islands meant to come out in early 2011? If SI is released in late 2010 then they won't have a lot of time to get a range of products out?
 
SI is the uncore from the next gen chipset with the shaders from the current gen, should be interesting lol. It won't be another 2900, nvidias done that this gen :) even if it's a rubbish chip ato don't have to release it with the 5870 and 5970 being great chips even now a year on.
 
theforce said:
I have my doubts about SI. It is a design that was first thought to be made on a 32nm process.

Either ATI will create a huge chip or at the best case scenario something bigger than their current chip. That would mean high prices. I hope we don't end up with another 2900.
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I think it will be similar size to cypress.It will just be a refresh with some of the best bits of NI bolted on for good measure.
 
straxusii said:
5870 is fine for ages, it's still the 3rd best card you can buy period
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Straxusii, I too have a qx9650, how does it do interms of keeping up with the 5870?

What did you do to get it to 3.6Ghz?

Im a noob at overclocking. My qx9650 is at stock 3Ghz, do I need to overclock it, for thr 5870, or beyound?

I game at 1920x1200
 
opethdisciple said:
Straxusii, I too have a qx9650, how does it do interms of keeping up with the 5870?

What did you do to get it to 3.6Ghz?

Im a noob at overclocking. My qx9650 is at stock 3Ghz, do I need to overclock it, for thr 5870, or beyound?

I game at 1920x1200
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It's absolutely fine, generally the GPU is still the bottleneck as you'd expect.

Getting it to 3.6 is really easy, I expect it will do much more but I like a safe and stable overclock as this is my work pc also.

Just increase the bus speed from 333 to 400mhz et voila, no need for increases in volts or anything else, with pretty much any decent motherboard you pci and pcie buses should be kept at stock frequencies.


As to whether you should overclock it I seriously doubt at 3ghz it is bottlenecking a 5870
 
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straxusii said:
It's absolutely fine, generally the GPU is still the bottleneck as you'd expect.

Getting it to 3.6 is really easy, I expect it will do much more but I like a safe and stable overclock as this is my work pc also.

Just increase the bus speed from 333 to 400mhz et voila, no need for increases in volts or anything else, with pretty much any decent motherboard you pci and pcie buses should be kept at stock frequencies.


As to whether you should overclock it I seriously doubt at 3ghz it is bottlenecking a 5870
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This wont affect my ram in any way?
 
One question, I seen on some review sites that a 5870 can achive minimum 30fps at near max settings at 1920x1200 resolution on Crysis warhead.

Is this true?

Because xbit labs, have a review on the 5870 and to quote them "the 5870 gives up at 1680 x 900 resolution with max settings on warhead"!

Cant be?
 
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