Modern Warfare 2 is going P2P.
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They do have a point about the multiplayer experience being largely free after you buy the game and I suppose it was a matter of time before someone like Activision went ahead and tried to capitalise on that. Seems we'll be seeing exactly what they have in mind when new COD lands here and I will be more interested in seeing how other publishers react if it does yield money for them.
Could i care? Its not physically possible for him to change it to subscription at this stage so i think like most people not devoid of intelligence we were referring to the series not MW2 (like the OP wrote for some reason). And since your post was clearly aimed at no one in particular we could only assume it was aimed at everyone as if you were saying it hadn't been stated anywhere that it was on the cards.
As a possibility, subscription gaming would work in a similar way to renting so could be something other devs may try out, but i would be incredibly surprised if they made it the only way to play the game.
Either way it'll never work the way Kodick envisions it. He's going to be trying to rip people off at every turn and there can't be an unlimited supply of morons willing to pay anything Activision ask... though i wouldn't be entirely surprised if there was.
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Activision are the ultimate greed machine.
You'd find that the devs on non local mp games would have to pay for many many more servers as the majority of the community would not pay for servers themselves if they had to pay for online play.
I can't see this working in any FPS currently and previously.
Essentially nothing has changed, except graphics.
If other companies are going to start making their games P2P, games we've been playing for 15 years for free after purchase, they better have some revolutionary ideas in terms on content, support etc. Which in all honesty can't see happening in this universe or the next. They say it'll greatly improve dedicated servers etc, after taking our ability away to host our own games, forcing us to pay to have our own, now this? Seriously what has happened to being able to host our own servers? People have been doing it for years fine, sometimes better.
You'll also have a problem with different developers offering their own P2P services, segragating those like me who simply won't sign up to them all, but want to play all the game and will be forced to stick with whatever everyone else I play with, does.
I have no doubt they'll make money, but for how long?
Essentially nothing has changed, except graphics.
If other companies are going to start making their games P2P, games we've been playing for 15 years for free after purchase, they better have some revolutionary ideas in terms on content, support etc. Which in all honesty can't see happening in this universe or the next. They say it'll greatly improve dedicated servers etc, after taking our ability away to host our own games, forcing us to pay to have our own, now this? Seriously what has happened to being able to host our own servers? People have been doing it for years fine, sometimes better.
You'll also have a problem with different developers offering their own P2P services, segragating those like me who simply won't sign up to them all, but want to play all the game and will be forced to stick with whatever everyone else I play with, does.
I have no doubt they'll make money, but for how long?
I think every game company would love to do this, think back to the PS1/Saturn days where you would generally buy more games due to the length and re playability of the titles. Now Since the Xbox most games have had a multiplayer component tagged on which some games see 60,100 or even something like 300 hours played and they don't make much of a profit on (bar map packs etc which may only have a 20-30% purchasing them).
Fair enough they should reward their loyal fans who have put a huge amount of time and investment into your title but as title cost more and people like to be greedy everyone would love to gain some consistent profit. But I can't see this happening or working properly any time soon as we have recently seen APB get hit pretty hard by reviews/gamers due to the "MMO Monthly Fee" but nowhere near the amount of content or community seen by other MMO's.
If they want more money surely in-game advertising would be the best route
Fair enough they should reward their loyal fans who have put a huge amount of time and investment into your title but as title cost more and people like to be greedy everyone would love to gain some consistent profit. But I can't see this happening or working properly any time soon as we have recently seen APB get hit pretty hard by reviews/gamers due to the "MMO Monthly Fee" but nowhere near the amount of content or community seen by other MMO's.
If they want more money surely in-game advertising would be the best route
yep if someone is going to make a p2p fps i want a full continent/planet of war.
Thousands of people battles etc.
why even buy it
I wont be playing any small scale piddly FPS that thought it could get away with this crap..
Planetside... sure but not a MW small style fps.
Sticking a few RPG elements into an FPS like rank weapon and vehicle proficiencies does not justify a monthly sub.
Planetside... sure but not a MW small style fps.
Sticking a few RPG elements into an FPS like rank weapon and vehicle proficiencies does not justify a monthly sub.
its been coming for years with the amount of people playing fps games online.
it has been said before and there was pictures of pricing and stuff if anyone can find it and this was before modern warfare 2 was out so all the people saying nah not going to happen time to wake up
simple fact is cod has a big market which given the right strategie and marketing will do silly figures subscription. makes me laugh at how many say pfffft im not doing that then you see how many actually buy the game and play it
if the subscription package is pretty reasonably priced and good people will do it ! they probably have a rough idea what will happen thats why they going to do it. whether a small amount of the gaming population disagree then what does that matter to the whole picture ?
mw2 was a pile of but still was biggest game out there in terms of sales and people like me who thought it was worst fps in years played it just to play with friends. this is the whole thing. if your friends are playing on it and there aint much else out there (which there basically isnt fps wise thats new) your gunna have a bash . they know this. this is why they have done this.
look at whats coming fps wise this year.
we have battlefield vietnam , medal of honour . thats it !
so without even knowing cod 7 will do big buisness as it always does. forget hate posts it will.not saying it will be a good game but the masses will buy it. same as theyll probably play this subscription shizzle. these will be the first people to do it then ea will follow and everyone else at end of day . theres too much money to made so its going to happen whether you like it or not.
it has been said before and there was pictures of pricing and stuff if anyone can find it and this was before modern warfare 2 was out so all the people saying nah not going to happen time to wake up
simple fact is cod has a big market which given the right strategie and marketing will do silly figures subscription. makes me laugh at how many say pfffft im not doing that then you see how many actually buy the game and play it
if the subscription package is pretty reasonably priced and good people will do it ! they probably have a rough idea what will happen thats why they going to do it. whether a small amount of the gaming population disagree then what does that matter to the whole picture ?
mw2 was a pile of but still was biggest game out there in terms of sales and people like me who thought it was worst fps in years played it just to play with friends. this is the whole thing. if your friends are playing on it and there aint much else out there (which there basically isnt fps wise thats new) your gunna have a bash . they know this. this is why they have done this.
look at whats coming fps wise this year.
we have battlefield vietnam , medal of honour . thats it !
so without even knowing cod 7 will do big buisness as it always does. forget hate posts it will.not saying it will be a good game but the masses will buy it. same as theyll probably play this subscription shizzle. these will be the first people to do it then ea will follow and everyone else at end of day . theres too much money to made so its going to happen whether you like it or not.
It's a huge extra hassle for a company that doesn't already own a massive subscription service.
After all you can't just dump your mp on local, or onto community servers you've got to run all the servers and admin them all, and provide a very forceful anti hack system.
Can you imagine the average fps dev, being able to hire several thousand admins before the subscription money actually rolls in?
After all you can't just dump your mp on local, or onto community servers you've got to run all the servers and admin them all, and provide a very forceful anti hack system.
Can you imagine the average fps dev, being able to hire several thousand admins before the subscription money actually rolls in?
http://www.vg247.com/2010/07/19/rumour-cod-subcription-plan-leaked-in-gameplay-video/
Looks a bit suspicious
Looks a bit suspicious
I don't think they are going to change MW2 either, but I take issue with the idea that it is physically impossible, at least on the PC anyway. The PC version is on Steam and they could just enforce an update which you need to play online, and which incorporates a subscription.
On the wider issue, I wouldn't necessarily rule out paying to play online, but it would have to be cheap as otherwise there just wouldn't be enough players to make it attractive enough. And it would have to be dedicated servers, not p2p. Finally it would be good if they incorporated better passive anti-cheating measures which games like UT have by default, which make stuff like spawnkilling much more difficult or impossible. Coming from UT to COD4 for example, I was shocked at the complete lack of spawn protection and the poor choice of spawn sites which just invites lamers to spawn kill.
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