And you base this on what exactly?
There are a fair few NA-T 2JZs making big numbers in the states. Look it up.
700bhp for 10k 'spec me' thread!!
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And you base this on what exactly?
There are a fair few NA-T 2JZs making big numbers in the states. Look it up.
Turn key reliably isn't really something that you should expect from any engine cranking out more than twice what it left the factory with...
The point I'm trying to make is that there are no good reasons why the GE cannot handle big power where the GTE can. Whilst not identical, they are very similar and the GE is an extremely strong engine, and that has been proved time and time again over in the states. The problem here is that the vast majority of people who are in the UK Jap/Drift scene are sheep and nothing other than a 1JZGTE/2JZGTE will do.
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if you read the thread, its about making a car travel a minimum of 400metres at full throttle, not drive you around europe for the summer.
i couldnt run 700bhp all day long in my rx7, id blow it bits! but all it needs to do is last 32 seconds, after that ill turn the power down to 550bhp so it lasts more than 2 days.
would a GE last years at that power, i dont know, i know the gte engine does and from Joshy says it will make that power but maybe it wont last quite as long as a GTE but that isnt the purpose of the thread.
I think your gonna find it harder to buy and build a car that does 700bhp all day long, 365 days a year
The DW S15s 2JZGTE is far from standard internally.
And for extra lols, I seem to remember that they sourced and fitted a Crankshaft from... You guessed it, a GE.
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Ive heard of a 1.5 Vtec engine that'd been taken over 700bhp believe it or not.
I just think in terms of ease a massive engine most likely a large lump of american iron is going to do it most easily
You dont need 700bhp driving down most roads, without 4wd the torque is probably going to be a liability when you arent paying attention
Ive always liked the idea of variable boost or something where you have the power only when required for the weekends, etc.
I think on superchargers you can sometimes just change the ratio with a tighter rubber belt or something easy like that and it'd make more power.
Lower or no boost improves mpg and reliability thereby giving you best of both worlds or is it not that simple
I just think in terms of ease a massive engine most likely a large lump of american iron is going to do it most easily
You dont need 700bhp driving down most roads, without 4wd the torque is probably going to be a liability when you arent paying attention
Ive always liked the idea of variable boost or something where you have the power only when required for the weekends, etc.
I think on superchargers you can sometimes just change the ratio with a tighter rubber belt or something easy like that and it'd make more power.
Lower or no boost improves mpg and reliability thereby giving you best of both worlds or is it not that simple
No, i'm pretty certain it's all stock.
Ive heard of a 1.5 Vtec engine that'd been taken over 700bhp believe it or not.
I just think in terms of ease a massive engine most likely a large lump of american iron is going to do it most easily
You dont need 700bhp driving down most roads, without 4wd the torque is probably going to be a liability when you arent paying attention
Ive always liked the idea of variable boost or something where you have the power only when required for the weekends, etc.
I think on superchargers you can sometimes just change the ratio with a tighter rubber belt or something easy like that and it'd make more power.
Lower or no boost improves mpg and reliability thereby giving you best of both worlds or is it not that simple
All cars have this, the pedal on the right.
With Uprated Main Bearings. And Uprated Big ends. That is not "All stock".
I had a Ford KA
Was it black and the latter half of your name beginning with W?
"Trivial" times or not, the engine is clearly not standard. It's not an accurate representation of how strong the Standard GTE is when abused. No ifs, not buts, it's not a standard engine.
I'll ask again, what are you basing your theory that the GE won't hold the power on?
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Not sure on prices of below components as I'm taking a "spec list" from a MkII Golf of somebody I know that runs at santa pod
Mk2 Golf
Audi 1.8 20v Turbo (AGU code)
82.5mm J.E Pistons (making it 1.9 )
Scat 20mm Connecting Rods
Siemens 870cc Injectors with Fuelab Adjustable FPR
Garrett GT35R Turbo
Ross Machine Racing Inlet Manifold
ADR N/A Inlet Camshaft
Interglactic Tubular Turbo Manifold
Tial 44mm External Wastegate and Tial 50mm BOV
PWR Chargecooler
Earls Braided Hose and AN Fixings
2 x Bosch 044 Fuel Pump
Schadek Oil Pump
APR headbolts
Supertech Inconnel Valves and springs
IIRC after that lot its running 600bhp then an additional 25-150bhp on nitrous
It is probably out of the budget but hey ho
Mk2 Golf
Audi 1.8 20v Turbo (AGU code)
82.5mm J.E Pistons (making it 1.9 )
Scat 20mm Connecting Rods
Siemens 870cc Injectors with Fuelab Adjustable FPR
Garrett GT35R Turbo
Ross Machine Racing Inlet Manifold
ADR N/A Inlet Camshaft
Interglactic Tubular Turbo Manifold
Tial 44mm External Wastegate and Tial 50mm BOV
PWR Chargecooler
Earls Braided Hose and AN Fixings
2 x Bosch 044 Fuel Pump
Schadek Oil Pump
APR headbolts
Supertech Inconnel Valves and springs
IIRC after that lot its running 600bhp then an additional 25-150bhp on nitrous
It is probably out of the budget but hey ho
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Yeh thats the one
I don't know why you're "Jesus Christ"ing. You're the one that made the foolish statement
.As I've mentioned before, the pistons are different. This does not mean that the GE pistons are made from butter. Numerous cars out there are holding down massive numbers with standard GE bottom ends.
If you'd seriously lose sleep over it, feel free to stick in a set of TT pistons for the wallet crushing sum of £50. So you've got pretty much an entire GTE spec bottom end for £100 , considering the twins, injectors, cams and other GTE extras will need to be thrown in the bin long before we reach the power goals discussed, I don't see the logic of going with a GTE. Unless of course you think £900 is a reasonable amount to spend on oil squirters...
That must have LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!
I had a GT35R on an R33 GTR and that didnt really get going till 4krpm! Also had the advantage of revving out to 8.5krpm. That must be an interesting power delivery!
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Ive heard of a 1.5 Vtec engine that'd been taken over 700bhp believe it or not.
I just think in terms of ease a massive engine most likely a large lump of american iron is going to do it most easily
You dont need 700bhp driving down most roads, without 4wd the torque is probably going to be a liability when you arent paying attention
Ive always liked the idea of variable boost or something where you have the power only when required for the weekends, etc.
I think on superchargers you can sometimes just change the ratio with a tighter rubber belt or something easy like that and it'd make more power.
Lower or no boost improves mpg and reliability thereby giving you best of both worlds or is it not that simple
700bhp has been hit on a single cam vtec engine in the US, i remember back in 2005 there was a yellow one running high 9s down the quarter.
you can get a fair bit more than that if you go twincam vtec 1.6 but a lot dont normally bother unless they are racing in a class, the usual thing to do is use a b18 block, have it sleeved up to 2.0ltr, you then have the potential for 1000bhp+
the only time you need variable boost is if your on a track day in the rain i would say, and to be honest you are gonna run a electronic or manual boost controller anyway in this sort of application.
If your trying to drive with better mpg why are you full throttle? if you dont go full throttle then you will get the same mpg whether the car does 5psi or 50psi of boost
Also your putting your foot down with 700bhp, i think that will have all your attention, i wouldnt like to go full throttle in a 400bhp unless im concentrating on what im doing.
also i put about the 365days to say the engine doesnt have to last, just make it down a quartermile in one piece.....ie its length of time under stress is less than something used all year around
True, its almost stock but again your correct in that changing anything to take more pressure instantly becomes none stock so should be void.
that engine and bits will cost a lot of money, probably looking at least 10k right there, then you have to buy the NOS, stick it in a car, if you can price up the components online it might be possible but i doubt it