Pick a car from this list

[TW]Fox;17046682 said:
2) BMW 335i M Sport Coupe (E92)

Has to be the above. The E92 is newer and better looking than the E60 = big + for the E92. If you had to list E92s in order (good to bad) you would start with the M3 then the 335i right down to the 320d. I’d aim as high up the list as possible.

Running costs are for wimps, I’d get the best car out there!
 
The OP specifically stated he is not interested in a REAL LIFE purchase for himself. Its just a hypothetical list/fantasy.

If the OP was making a purchase fair enough, but he either cant afford any of these cars, is just dreaming/speculating, or just wants to bait people into a BMW orientated argument.

[TW]Fox;17049695 said:
I guess I ought to drop the pretence that this is some sort of random 'for the lulz' thread - it is my replacement car shortlist. There are a few other things on there, but tbh they are outsiders. You all know what I'm like by now, my post-car-research stage makes World War II look short and quick.
 
Could we not have an entry test to get into motors? Nothing arduous, just an IQ in double digits or something?
 
2) BMW 335i M Sport Coupe (E92)

The compromise is worth it, if I could afford the insurance I would probably be looking at one :(
 
[TW]Fox;17051438 said:
Love them. But they are 7-8+ years old. I've got an 8 year old car at the moment. Ploughing cash into older cars gets boring :p

I need to be realistic. I love Mercedes SL's, I'd adore an SL55 AMG, I'd love a nearly new F10, I really fancy an E55 AMG but... they are cars beyond my station. I don't see the point in stretching myself to ridiculous lengths for my hobby. Not like that. I'll stick to admiring them as they drive past and maybe in the future I'll have the means to do one of those properly.

I agree with the sentiment of wanting to go for something newer but when you have an option like that, remember that something like SL's aren't getting any newer or lower mileage :p and the chances of finding a well looked after one as time goes on gets smaller. You can say "yeah I owned one of those" ...

Would you really look at getting a 12/13 year old example if you are questioning a 7/8 year old one now?

None of the cars mentioned are exactly 'cheap' to run but as you are already looking into warranty options etc it is only really the fuel and purchase price that comes into it imo.
 
I think I'd go for the 330i or the 335i. Would have to drive the 330i first though

The revvy nature of the 330i sounds appealing, the 335i engine in the Z4 was effortlessly grunty and great for driving normally, but it felt a bit restricted past 5000rpm. Both engines are impressive though, power with real world fuel economy.
 
You know what bothers me with the 335i's motor; when you rev it standing still it sounds so empty, as if it's just too easy to bother making a drama about. Only sounds good when you're tonking along. It seems to be the same for any modern (EURO3+) large displacement motor. Even my Alfa, though I can get a couple of pops on the over-run if I get it just right.

That is completely the opposite of what I though of the Z4 s35i. That thing sounded like it was going to induct the road!

Plus it popped on the overun and when settling back to idle after starting.
 
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That is completely the opposite of what I though of the Z4 s35i. That thing sounded like it was going to induct the road!
Maybe it's a problem of expectation? As I have similar feelings to BigglesPiP - I think I even described the engine as it is in Z4 35i as "a bit boring"!
 
I think I might organise a 330i test drive after reading this thread. I have been thinking what to try next. Cheers Fox!
 
Maybe it's a problem of expectation? As I have similar feelings to BigglesPiP - I think I even described the engine as it is in Z4 35i as "a bit boring"!

Boring maybe as its so smooth, but it certainly didn't feel empty. A 1.2 punto feels like an empty engine.
 
[TW]Fox;17047013 said:
the 330i is an absolute masterpeice. It has to be one of the defining car engineering acheivements of the past 10 years, surely?

LOL come on? please tell me that was tongue in cheek.

If not then thats taking things a bit far dont you think?!

A 3 series is hardly a Veyron... pure lol.


The other odd thing about this thread, which prompted to make the trolling comments was that in another thread entirely you were spouting about your hatred for ANYthing diesel and how rubbish they were with "vibrating gearsticks" and "dagagaga" and nonsense like that.

Why are there not only one, but TWO diesels in your list of cars given the distain you seem to have for anyone that drives diesels.

Rather ironic that you *appear* to look down your nose at anyone who drives a diesel, but then have two in your "dream cars" list?

In addition you specifically state that its not a spec me, then go on to do a complete U turn and state that infact this IS a spec me thread.

Odd thread is odd.

I still ask, whats really the point here?
 
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I missed that comment about engineering. I wouldn't agree with Fox's comment, amazing what a bit of marketing can make Joe Public think.
 
The 330i is a fine car, but it's just a well built RWD saloon/coupe with a nice engine. Engineering achievement? Nah.
 
I still ask, whats really my point here?

Fixed.

I think Fox's engineering achievement was in regards to the engine more than the car as a whole, surely?

I would have 4), though that's because one of the managers at work has one in red and it looks pretty nice. Never driven one, mind. I don't think the discontinued point really matters though. Nobody doesn't buy a nice E39 just because it's discontinued. You're after a 3 year old performance (?) BMW - it'll still be worth more than a newer 4 pot when you come to trade it in/sell it, won't it? Depreciation is so tedious.
 
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LOL come on? please tell me that was tongue in cheek.

If not then thats taking things a bit far dont you think?!

A 3 series is hardly a Veyron... pure lol.

I'm not suprised that as a point it went right over your head. I'm talking about the engine itself.

I'll humour you for a bit and explain it a tad more. On the one hand we have a 3 litre petrl engine developing 272bhp. Yet on the other we have an engine which emits circa 172g/km of CO2 and as result costs £170 a year to tax, is in a reasonable low company car tax band and, in theory, is capable of almost 40mpg combined.

In these days of everyone being obsessed with CO2 I think such figures alongside each other are quite an acheivement.

The other odd thing about this thread, which prompted to make the trolling comments was that in another thread entirely you were spouting about your hatred for ANYthing diesel and how rubbish they were with "vibrating gearsticks" and "dagagaga" and nonsense like that.

Why are there not only one, but TWO diesels in your list of cars given the distain you seem to have for anyone that drives diesels.

I don't think there is an awful lot of point us discussing this if you think I have a 'hatred for ANYthing diesel'. I think its fairly obvious from my posts on this forum that this isn't the case. I'm not a fan of the whole diesel culture and the obsessiveness with 4 cylinder diesel engines as if they are always the answer to everyones problems, and I prefer petrol engines. If you wish to translate that into a hatred for everything diesel, well, thats your perception issue.

Rather ironic that you *appear* to look down your nose at anyone who drives a diesel, but then have two in your "dream cars" list?

Look down my nose? Amazing. If that was the case I'd look down my nose at my own father who not only drives (Well, until recently) a diesel, but bought it on my recommendation.

And it's far from a dream car list! My dream cars, like most people, have far more exotic badges on the front than BMW!

I still ask, whats really the point here?

Nobody else but you is having any issue. Mind you, you are not having an issue are you, as from your previous posts its pretty clear your motives around here are a tad different from others.

The point was to stimulate an interesting discussion about peoples perceptions and thoughts on a selection of cars. I didn't want it to descend into typical 'spec me a car' land with all sorts of other recommendations coming out of the woodwork, etc etc, which is why I chose that route. It turned into a spec me thread anyway so I figured I might as well declare my interest.

Nobody but yourself appears to have had any issue with this.

When someone takes the time to post, they just get every point they have made taken apart by the OP.

Not really, well except for hurfdurf with the M3 thing, because an M3 costs £30k+ so its a bit pointless, really.

Everyone else seems to be either:

a) Ignoring the thread as it is not of interest to them
b) Discussing/debating/whatever without a problem.

Is there a reason why you are different? You are trying very, very hard to turn a thread which been almost exclusive about Motors, in the Motors forum, into some sort of fight...
 
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