But this was murder.
*monocle* "Sisters jailed after one stabbed her boyfriend for calling her a lesbian"
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But this was murder.
It was tried as manslaughter hence the lack of sentence. But after reading the article myself it should have been tried as murder as she prevented him from getting medical help which might aswell meant she finished him off herself. Still, extremely disappointed sentence for the crime.
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5 years for murder? Damn. Should have got a minimum of 20.
Can only assume it's something to do with the buckled eye the one on the left has.
if its so expensive to keep criminals in british prisons then maybe they should send them abroad, somewhere like india since we like using their call centres so much...(family members can contact their loved ones through the call centre
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not all criminals ofcourse....just the nutjobs like these 2 dykes.
gotta add the one on the right looks pretty hot.
).not all criminals ofcourse....just the nutjobs like these 2 dykes.
gotta add the one on the right looks pretty hot.
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I know someone who was caught with a few pills on him, got done for dealing and that was 3 years.
E's are pretty harmless compared to stabbing someone to death. But that is the UK.
E's are pretty harmless compared to stabbing someone to death. But that is the UK.
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5 years for this?
thats a joke... Surely there is a place where people can complain? perhaps if enough do this they will open their eyes up and look at this utter crap sentencing thats been happening!
thats a joke... Surely there is a place where people can complain? perhaps if enough do this they will open their eyes up and look at this utter crap sentencing thats been happening!
That's like comparing apples to oranges. It doesn't mean your 'someone' didn't deserve their punishment for pushing drugs. Shows how much you really know about the drug's trade if you honestly think it's 'pretty harmless'.
+1 to about the same region her bf got stabbed
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Murder is premeditated, IE, he called her a Lesbian on the phone, she mulled it over, went downstairs, grabbed a knife, went to his place, got herself invited in then stabbed him, then ran off.
Manslaughter would be killing largely without premeditation, and I assume her being drunk might be being taken into consideration, but also, that together the two acts separately, because they both combined two separate acts to kill him.
If she stabbed him in the same way, at a pub, and got medical help, he wouldn't have died and she'd be done for attempted manslaughter or something else, likewise if he wasn't stabbed, not calling an ambulance wouldn't have done anything.
Its slightly more complex in terms of the law than, he stabbed him in the heart and he died in minutes, or commited a premeditated act.
Personally I think the stabber should have gotten a hugely worse sentence, and the sister who wouldn't call an ambulance should have been found guilty of some kind of torture or something, pathetic excuse of a rat bag, infact I think what she did was worse.
The first drunk sister was angry and did something violent but incredibly stupid, she panicked and ran, she didn't stab him 42 times, or make sure he was dead, she was drunk and reacted like a very stupid drunk person.
THe other sister wasn't panicking, was there, watching him die, and refused to do anything, its more malicious than the stabbing if you ask me.
The judge is likely inbetween a rock and a hard place, what sentence is standard for spur of the moment stabbings that aren't fatal in and of themselves, certainly less than a sentence for murder. What sentence to give to someone who refuses to call an ambulance, who even knows, the judge probably hasn't seen a case like that before.
Wasn't there a thread about the guy no one called an ambulance for in the states, though that was a case of too many people and everyone thinking someone else did it, and a big discussion about the good samaritan laws in lots of countries, where you would get put in jail basically for refusing to help, and we're one of a few western countries without such a law.
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Yes, however, you would still think a manslaughter charge would get you a longer sentence than a guy dealing in stolen goods, of course theres degrees.
Should a guy who buys a stolen stereo get the same sentence as someone who ASKS a criminal to get him some, computers, and he kills someone commiting the robbery, no they shouldn't.
Manslaughter is FAR to broad a charge, some people commit murder and get off with manslaughter charges, and some people kill people, maybe in self defence and also get a manslaughter charge, we really need more catagorys, and these two really should have been in a higher end "manslaughter" charge, 5 years is ridiculous when their act ended with someone dying cruelly, especially as neither act alone would have seen him die.
The sister did eventually call an ambulance, and he was alive, it was just too late, its not like they took him, cut his head off and chucked him in a lake.
Like the happy slappers recently, they killed someone, but it wasn't their intent, their act was premediated, however, the act wasn't murder, they premediatated what is essentially a very small assault and never intended for the guy to die.
WE shouldn't all always just go "a guy died, they should be in for life".
Murder does not require pre-mediation, only an intent to inflict GBH, since that was the case it clearly is murder. The fact that she didn't call an ambulance solidifies that fact.
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Not the place to debate this but stabbing someone is very likely to do harm, drugs have a very low chance of doing any harm statistically speaking.
The law is stupid. If we didn't lock people up for silly things then we would have more space and money for the real nutters.