Minding my own business. Who knows what the woman did to the man.
Both should be charged with assault in public.
UFC fighter ko's woman Beater on Street
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Minding my own business. Who knows what the woman did to the man.
Both should be charged with assault in public.
So you'd be fine with someone killing him now?
After all, you're arguing that the correct response to violence is far more violence. Therefore you must think that the correct response to the violence perpetrated by the UFC guy is to kill him.
Either that, or you don't believe your own line of argument.
Also, I refuse to treat women like children and/or members of a higher social order. So I make no distinction between hitting a woman and hitting a man.
Agreed.
Do you genuinely see no possibilities other than "do nothing" and "stamp on someone's head after they're already down and no threat"?
Seriously? If so, you're disturbing.
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It's not an arm lock, it forces the radial nerve against the periosteum. If done properly it is incredibly painful if the recipient moves, an odd kind of pain, you will not be standing up. Just to hammer home the point it has made me vomit before when trying to resist. It is most immobilising and as you have the forearm, you can easily move it into something else (joint manipulation) if they can resist.Knocking out someone is much more effective than that... not to mention It's more just.
I know quite a few people who'd get out of any arm lock if they're determined.. It does not matter whether they break/dislocate a bone or two as long as they manage to stand up and beat someone up
The point is it leaves no lasting damage (a bruise at worst) and is infinitely better than jumping on someone's head.
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UFC fighter should have known better. Drink in, sense out. Black guy's lucky he didn't kill the woman sucker punching her from behind. Mate of mine got killed in Belfast on a night out when someone smacked him from behind. Rotated his head with so much force it ruptured the artery in his neck. As for the internet hard men slabbering in this thread. STFU.
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Exactly. Violence = not cool.
A grown man punches a girl in the back of the head and knocks her unconscious... and you would stand there and mind your own business?
PRIDE NEVER DIE, MMA OWNZ, HEAD STOMPS OWN.
First Gomi gets an incredible knock out in the USA then head stomping makes an impressive come back, is Pride coming back to life? I for one am grateful for this from Roger Huerta, the guy who left the UFC to star in the new Tekken Movie.
I am not talking rubbish
I myself have managed to get out of an arm lock and dislocated my own shoulder...
So please, stop calling my comments rubbish.
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A normal person would hold him back IF he was still attacking her, call the police, help someone detain him, and get her help. the last one being key, and actually the thing I'd be most sure of doing.
Thats the thing, SHE need help more than he needed a kicking, and he didn't receive a kicking, he received a potentially lethal blow.
Ok, everythings a potentially lethal blow, but stamping on someones head, when their head is on a solid surface is FAR more dangerous than your average punch, or holding someone down.
The fact is, if he did kill her, with a freak punch, thats STILL not justification for a random person to beat him within an inch of his life, or stamp on his head.
If the woman is your wife/daughter/sister or something you might have more reason to lose control and do something stupid which could be, an excuse, but NOT a reason.
ITs this simple, the guy threw a punch, but then walked away, if he's not actually threatening to do more damage to anyone in particular, theres entirely no reason to do anything but make sure he gets arrested using the minimum amount of force required. Almost anything else is completely over the top, if he was attacking other people, or was still trying to hurt her, thats a different situation but REASONABLE force to stop him is the only thing thats justifyable.
THe UFC guy wanted to beat the crap out of someone, its that simple.
Yes, you don't know what happed, she might have done something like key his car ( just an example, she could have done anything to **** him off ) in which case she deserves at least a punch. Girl or no girl, women want to be treated equal to men then it also means they deserve an equal punishment for injustice to a man like another man does.
Another example, the blonde girl from season 2 of '' young, dumb and living of mum'' who tells the 17 year old girl and some guy not to sleep in the same bed ''just because she doesn't want it'' and she goes on a rant and kicks the door etc, she deserves a kicking too.
Anyhow, regardless of the anti ''omg don't punch girls'' rant, violence is bad and should be treated equally no matter the victim, the idiot who attacked the attacker of the chick should go to prison too, moron, stamping on someone's head...
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You OK there buddy?
.I didn't suggest that the punishment fits the crime in this instance. I have no idea what happened, it's impossible to tell really; it seems as though the ufc guy stamped on the guys head, but I mean that's with a 320x120 resolution shaky video, so who's to say.
What you should take from my posts is that I think it's a sad state of affairs that a big man should punch a woman in the back of the head, and expect to spend the rest of his night possibly doing the same thing over and over. He's crossing a line, in my opinion. A line which we see crossed all too often; every weekend in every city in the UK, it gets harder to enjoy an evening out without encountering some numskull who deems it acceptable to throw his fists around, regardless of who he's hitting, and why he's hitting them.
You'll note that I agreed with meghatronic when he suggested that Himmler would have enjoyed the notion of expeditious 'justice' squads, and that I feel despair at the fact that we're left with a base mutual fear and distrust to dictate our collective behavior, that and a thin layer of policing.
The only real solution to this type of behavior is what?, education, better parenting, anger management?, ban alcohol?.
To you maybe hitting a woman who's walking away is acceptable, but, to me.. No..
You see what I did there, I kind of took your concept, and then expanded it, and twisted it. Because you didn't really say that it was OK to hit a woman did you?, rather you said that you make no special exemption for them. We can make anything out of anything if we try hard enough.
Or maybe the guy punched the UFC guys wife in the back of the head earlier that evening?. I suppose we'll never know.
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Err no.. I would have walked by because i dont care about any of those people.
100% Disagree... I think it sends a positive message that this sort of behaviour is wrong and you don't always walk away being the dominant person.
Oh well if she key'd his car...
Are you seriously saying because women (and all civilized people...) want equal rights that .. nah you have to be trolling
A woman that keys a car or kicks the door deserves a good kicking, but a grown man who punches and knocks a girl out from behind doesn't.
oh dear..
First I was just ( arguably in a dumb way, I use the keyed car example as that personally makes me more angry than some random voilence) ranting about people saying she's a girl: so what ? Imo it should make no difference. Just because someone's a girl doesn't mean she should be able to get away with more ( or got off easier) than a man in any hypothetical situation imho. I get the idea from vids like this or reality shows, that girls and women in general think they can get away more and as a result, are bossy or think they can do something and get away with it (while a man wouldn't do it knowing he'd be punched or otherwise punished/avenged as a result), this simply winds me up.
Then I said punching shouldn't happen at all, and both should be prosecuted.
Aside from that: punching someone from behind, girl or not, is not as bad as stamping on someone's head who is already on the floor though imo.
Either way, this situation means call the cops, stop any ongoing violence or mind your own business, either of the 3, not ''ram the guy's head in''.
In an ideal world it means that bystanders stop the violence * detain the culprit while calling the Police. Then as a second choice minding your own business comes in, I'm a coward so I'd mind my own business, there I said it. But never ''ram the guy's head in'' or ''kill him''.
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You're forgetting that he was stomping on the head of someone who just punched a girl in from behind... knocking her unconscious
So it's not the same at all.
Agree, but I'm glad he did it and don't blame him for a second.