Jesus Christ! Don't forget to put your seat belts on!
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your massively over-reacting.
He had his windows smashed, nothing more.
your acting like they dragged him out of the car and beat him half to death.
He was left unharmed and the vehicle was sucessfully disabled. I dont see a problem.
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I agree with all of this.
Last time I saw anythign like that it was a bunch of Baboons attacking someones car. The police were acting like baboons, literally wild and vicious baboons, in mating season.
Shocking.
Explain?
One quickly broke through the drivers window to prevent the car from being started (remove keys). The other distracted by shattering the front windscreen (preventing the driver from seeing).
I suspect - don't know for sure - these guys are taught to do exactly this to prevent the car from moving off again, risking injury/death.
Of course they had to use force to shatter the glass, unfortunately going up and stroking it doesn't have the desired effect!
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Quickly?!
He was pounding it with unprecedented aggression and force, for blow after blow after blow.
It was frightening to watch.
the only unusual thing here is that he got on the bonnet.
The rest is seen day in, day out all over the country and is standard procedure for a driver that has failed to stop or has a potential to fail to stop.
this is normal. It happens day in, day out across the country and the window will be attacked until it breaks.
It will almost certainly have happened to somebody somewhere today in fact. its a non issue.
As others have said this is on road wars etc.. all the time.
The rest is seen day in, day out all over the country and is standard procedure for a driver that has failed to stop or has a potential to fail to stop.
this is normal. It happens day in, day out across the country and the window will be attacked until it breaks.
It will almost certainly have happened to somebody somewhere today in fact. its a non issue.
As others have said this is on road wars etc.. all the time.
I'm sure it is for those of us who don't get to see this day in day out.
I also suspect breaking glass on a modern vehicle is NOT easy and required several VERY hard hits.
I suspect this is exactly what the officers are taught to do to limit risk to themselves and the public. Break the glass ASAP, and disable the vehicle ASAP.
And I suspect now, we'll see a backlash resulting in them having to faff around yet more, and probably result in them being less effective. ie: You must ask the driver to open the door twice before breaking the glass
Did you read the thread?
The officers were using those tactics due to being almost run over on a routine stop, followed by a 17 minute chase and stinger deployment.
Which is a little bit different to a 6 year old conviction that they wont have been aware of..
IMO it was a bit silly jumping on the bonnet, but he may have felt safer there than in front of the 4x4.
Yes I read the thread thanks. My whole point is that regardless of the driving away etc, jumping on the bonnet and smashing his windscreen in this situation where they knew the perpetrator and his age and the likelihood he was going to be a danger was over the top and frankly the Oliceman should be reprimanded for it.
It seems a situation that for whatever reason got confused and out of control, something the Police should not be.
I understand that, but for an investigation to be warranted in the first place then there must be some question over the incident. Police are not investigated over every incident there is a complaint over or indeed suspended in every investigation either.
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Why didn't the police just surround the Range Rover with their cars? He was going below the speed limit for 17 minutes... They surround cars going much faster in order to stop them?
True, but in this case it seems likely that the man involved will have lodged a complaint. Seeing as how he has a history of being unhelpful, and filing unfounded complaints against the Police. (read: lies)
Personally, if I was the Chief Constable I'd be following every route possible to get this chaps licence revoked, so that he can either learn to drive properly, not drive again, or get caught driving with no licence and get his car crushed.
If he's that confused by Police trying to stop him, I'd hate to see how he drives through a complicated town centre!
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What with the media doing their best to blow this out of proportion and the naivety of the general public they have to be seen to be doing something, else there will be more public outcry.
Depends really, if an allegation is made then its quite common for an investigation into the allegation to begin at which point the officer is usually then suspended. My brother has been in the police (both uniformed and later on CID) and has had at least 4 (that I know of) allegations made against him in his career. On all 4 occasions an investigation went under way and he was suspended whilst each was concluded, I dont know the ins and outs of them all but I do know that in 2 of those there was actually no real question over the incidents other than that the member of the public had made a formal complaint of sufficient nature that it would undergo investigation.
Probably due to road conditions, most stops using this method are on an open road like a motorway, with no chance of on coming traffic.
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Sadly it seems like rather a lot of OcUK forum members are typical Daily Mail readers - dive in without knowing a fraction of the real facts and blame anyone in authority for anything they can. Time to understand that the media do not report balanced (or very often even factual) stories. The bits they don't report most always balance the bits they choose to.