Jags & Jags ...has anyone here ever owned or lived with a Jaguar XJ6 X300 (1994-1997)
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Yup this is what I was getting at, you are able to justify it which others may not be able to.
Me? I couldn't personally lose that much money on cars over the past few years, but I have friends who spend thousands a year on smoking, at least you still have a car at the end of it
Moeks - Looking back are you glad you didn't get the Porsche? It was a lot of money, but you may have kept it for another 5 years and been dead happy with it? Or you may have lost your job and been financially ruined.
No real reason to do that, you are gonna change one way or another so you've already accepted the main lose on your 540i. If this truely is a good example and not going to give you trouble then you could certainly do a lot worse.
In your own head though - how long do you see yourself owning this car for?
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There might be a cheaper finance scheme for someone who changes cars very often but maybe thats only for brand new and that'd cost more
lol how much do these weigh / make power wise ?
lol how much do these weigh / make power wise ?
I am more glad than words can accurately express that I did not buy that Porsche.
Well I didn't lose my job thankfully but I have taken a pay cut, hence me not buying another £11k-£12k car.
I didn't see any really obvious sings that it will give me trouble, of course it's always possible with a car like this, there is a lot to go wrong at the end of the day. Everything did work though and worked correctly. I paid a lot of attention the engine, gearbox and suspension and they all seemed fine.
It weighs 1545kg (that's feather-weight for this kind of car, my 540i was 1700kg or so)
And it makes 240bhp.
The V8 I had before weighed 1615kg (iirc) and put out 263bhp.
It's not a sports car though, and I don't care what Jaguar say you can't really make a car like this sporty anyway. Even the 400bhp XJR is more of a really fast sofa than a true sports saloon.
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Touch wood-en dashboard.
Enjoy then, will it be at the Southern Meet? I've always wanted to have a look round a really high end Jag.
It will be yes, unless their bodyshop has some sort of crisis. You should have seen my other one really, it was effin beautiful. Invader had a ride in it. It looked a lot meaner than this in black with nicer wheels. This one looks more regal though perhaps.
Its not about booting these though its the waft, i defy anyone to find a car that drives like that for 7k.
Get a big back plate made up by them before you take it
Some 22's and spinners would sort that issue out though? eBay a set of Lexus lights and you'll be dead 'mean'
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What do you suggest then? ...I really would like to know. Unless I spent time selling it privately, I don't see how I could get much more ...and I'd never get the money back I spent on it, period.
Get a Gliptone scuff master and the steering wheel will be good as new.
Also that colour looks good its got a bronze look about it.
Nice mesh grille too, you could get the bottom grilles to match
I had a look at their website, thanks for the tip ...however I am not sure exactly which colour that wheel leather is, it looks like it could well be Caramel ...but I am not certain.
And yea the colour looks pretty good, it's grown on me a lot, the mesh is nice yea, if it had, had the standard SE grille I would have ordered some mesh inserts anyway as I don't like the regular grille.
I suppose I could add the lower ones, I will give it some thought when I have the car.
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I would love a V8 (Rover P6 with a de-sleeved block please) but having worked on Jags for a year when I was younger I've had a thing for waftability and this jag definitely has that.
Might just be my age and accumulated biking and falling over drunk injuries (when a teen!) that make waftability more important than rampant acceleration and top speed for me these days.
Treat this one like a masseur waiting for you each morning and evening, fall in love with her and keep her around till her boobs are down by her knees before even considering a replacement
Might just be my age and accumulated biking and falling over drunk injuries (when a teen!) that make waftability more important than rampant acceleration and top speed for me these days.
Treat this one like a masseur waiting for you each morning and evening, fall in love with her and keep her around till her boobs are down by her knees before even considering a replacement
I don't know what Fox was thinking, but my suggestion would be to get the 540i fixed once and for all and then finally enjoy it. You weren't going to get the money back, but you would have at least got some use out of it.
I can understand changing a car just because you want to change, I understand that completely and go through that process myself about every 7 and a half minutes, but that never really seems to be your justification, does it? You seem to be obsessed "reliability" and avoiding problems, which is again something that I can just about understand, but what I do not understand is why someone who feels such a way would chop in an expensive to run barge where you have a fair idea of where the problems lie for yet another expensive to run barge that is completely unknown to you? A dull, dreary hatchback would have made a tiny bit of sense for this purpose, not a Jaguar.
Furthermore, I don't understand why when anyone brings this up you seem to go into a defensive stance akin to a child putting their fingers in this ears and screaming "La-La-La, I'M NOT LISTENING!!!".
Sorry to seem like a wet blanket. Don't get me wrong, I think that you've brought a lovely car, but I just can't understand why you've brought. If you had said "Because I wanted it", I'd say fair play, but your justification always seems to stem from the fact that you bought a dog on an E39 and refused to maintain/fix it.
I think Moeks went as far as was sensible with that 540, should never have bought it, but once he did and it became apparent it was "one of those cars" i dont blame him for getting shot of it.
At least he is now back in the Jag club..... unlike some people.... Joshy
At least he is now back in the Jag club..... unlike some people.... Joshy
I'm sorry but when did I do this ? ...I have always as far as I remember argued my case and given reasons for why I do things the way I do, I have never just not listened to what people have to say. I may not take the suggestions and advice but it does not mean I haven't listened/read what you had to say. Some of it is rather good and some of it, not so much ...as you would expect.
I might have been a bit terse with you at times but then your style of posting or perhaps the manner in which you come across does wind me up sometimes ...although that very much depends on what mood I am already in when I read it.
Anyway with regards to why I bought the car, yes I wanted it ...really I want my old Jag back but that's not going to happen so I had to find another one. I may not have just said something as simple as 'I feel like it' ..because I had a series of other reasons in this case, but yes, I felt like it. Why I felt like it though is the question ...and would I have felt this way had the 540i worked out the way I wanted? ....mmm maybe, maybe not ...I can't know for sure. I do know that I wouldn't resent the car now, I might still have changed it in a relatively short period ...but I don't think I would have quite so soon as I have. As I said, in the other thread I made, end of the day I want rid of it now, I dislike the car, I don't dislike 540s ...I love them, I just don't like that one very much.
I really did want the 540i to work out, but not at such a high cost, but, as it stands things didn't work out the way I wanted them to. It just had a seemingly colossal list of problems, some of them very expensive to sort out ...and were just going further than I had ever really wanted to go. There does come a point when you have to say enough is enough. I could have carried on I suppose, but at this point I just don't feel like it, I don't want to any-more ...the car isn't the object of my desire now, it's just annoying and expensive. Perhaps it's because I know what it's really like when it's not right, I could have gotten a really good one and had years of relatively trouble free motoring with just the usual E39s issues ...as it happens I got one that it would seem already had some fairly substantial issues, some of them outside of the nrom for well cared for cars. Now this is my fault for buying this one, that's my impatience getting me again though.
The one that really concerns me though it the nasty rattle from the timing-chain I get when I start the car from cold about 60% of the time, and the constant tapping from the engine ...that's not right, I've been saying it all along and it worries me ...the only way to properly sort it out is to have the whole front of the engine apart, if the chain guides and secondary tensioners need replacing then it's a big, big job. To remove the lower timing case covers the main crank bolt has to come off, which is torqued up with some insanely high force. They call it the Jesus bolt on the BMW for a good reason. It's not something most people could remove at home really. Then you need a series of special tools to lock the cams in place etc ...and then there is the issue of VANOS units ...actually they are 'relatively' simple compared the the whole chain job but still £650 each ...that's just for me to buy and fit too. To fix the engine to my satisfaction is no small or cheap task, infact it's pretty massive really. In addition to this and all the smaller niggly issues, the gearbox needs to come out to replace the main shaft seals ...not something I can do and that's an expensive job too, although cheap compared to the engine work.
Would you have carried on trying to make it the way you wanted indefinitely ? I know it could be done, if I sank about £2k into it right now. Which you might say is half what I just laid out anyway ...but I'm more inclined to find the other £2k and go back to a Jag. It wasn't/isn't a particularly exciting car, as in thrill a minute stuff ...but then neither is this 540i ...and I did love driving the Jag, it's just such a nice place to be. Right now my 540i has a varied selection of rattles and squeaks which have come along over the months, it only had one I noticed when I bought it ...and just recently it developed a nice new and very annoying one somewhere around the passenger door or the seatbelt anchor point ...this is not a nice place to be, it's just annoying. The ride isn't very good now either, it jiggles and crashes over our poor roads, which shakes yet more of the car loose. The engine is still leaking air so it doesn't sound right, it's not got the right sharp note to it, it sounds woolly and wooshy ...an M62TU shouldn't actually sound like that, it should be clear and sharp and precise. The idle is not stable with the aircon off and blipping the throttle with it on will still cause the car to stumble about 25% of the time, and the dash lights will flicker, I could go one.
Oh also, I am not "obsessed" with reliability and avoiding potential issues, you see that's part of your posting style that winds me up. I am 'concerned' about it yes, who wouldn't be ? ...you must have a fair idea about the sort of things that can go wrong with cars like these and the potential costs involved. I like big luxury cars yes, and I don't really have big luxury car money ...but thanks to our used car market I can still drive them, but I am acutely aware of the sorts of things that can and do go wrong with older cars of this type and the costs involved. Just because I am eager to avoid an autobox going kaput or an air suspension collapsing does not mean I want to drive a Focus for peace of mind, it just means I'm going to be careful and keep my eyes peeled for any signs of such issues arising.
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You bought a car and found it was a bit of a dog, you spent all you were going to spend and now your ****ing sick of it.
It happens, iv said this before, the secret of doggy cars is knowing when to give up.
Yea you have wasted a few grand but **** it, thats what cars are about if you can afford it.
I would have a different opinion if young Moeks here was a skint member, but he's not, so now hes back in a car he likes and so the story goes.
It happens, iv said this before, the secret of doggy cars is knowing when to give up.
Yea you have wasted a few grand but **** it, thats what cars are about if you can afford it.
I would have a different opinion if young Moeks here was a skint member, but he's not, so now hes back in a car he likes and so the story goes.
If I was actually skint, I would never buy a car like this
Thats what im saying, its different if your skint.
No one likes doing money on cars, but it just matters less if you have got a few quid.
Although saying that ...it's kind of silly really that my first definition for being skint even involves a car at all. Really you'ed walk or use the bus (have you seen how much they cost now though 
) if you were truly skint, and I know some people that are. Having said that the reasons for that involve illicit substances and far too much alcohol ...so I don't really sympathise too much there.
Hopefully the only annoying issues I get with the Jag is corrosion. This is a tough one to avoid with these, but to doesn't effect the running of the car at the end of the day and it'll have to corrode some yet to look crap. Might be worth me getting the gearbox fluid and filter changed though, 7 years old and 93k seems like a good time to do it, i.e. before any issues start to arise ...as once they do, it's usually too late. Maybe that Jag specialist you use has done it before Mark? ...to get such a job done I'd need someone I believed I could trust and knew what they were doing.
) if you were truly skint, and I know some people that are. Having said that the reasons for that involve illicit substances and far too much alcohol ...so I don't really sympathise too much there.Hopefully the only annoying issues I get with the Jag is corrosion. This is a tough one to avoid with these, but to doesn't effect the running of the car at the end of the day and it'll have to corrode some yet to look crap. Might be worth me getting the gearbox fluid and filter changed though, 7 years old and 93k seems like a good time to do it, i.e. before any issues start to arise ...as once they do, it's usually too late. Maybe that Jag specialist you use has done it before Mark? ...to get such a job done I'd need someone I believed I could trust and knew what they were doing.
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wow left this thread for 5 minutes and you've bought one and already getting the **** ripped out of you cause it isnt a 5 series or Mondeo.
Think your in the wrong forum from now on us Jag lovers arent very welcome in here.
As for your corrosion I doubt you will have much to worry about with the X350, Ive never witness rust on one yet, which is more than I can say for the same year VW or BMW.
If you search the bay for Jaguar leather dye you will see a nice treat that will solve your problem with the wheel.
Other than that enjoy the ride
Think your in the wrong forum from now on us Jag lovers arent very welcome in here.
As for your corrosion I doubt you will have much to worry about with the X350, Ive never witness rust on one yet, which is more than I can say for the same year VW or BMW.
If you search the bay for Jaguar leather dye you will see a nice treat that will solve your problem with the wheel.
Other than that enjoy the ride