Obama defends ground zero mosque plans

WingZero30 said:
I don't know if you guys heard of this but a US church is planning to burn copies of Quran and is labelling the day as 'Burn a Quran day' on 9/11. This is most shocking. This is going to inflame lots of tensions.

Reminds me that a 1000 years history of crusades is being repeated.

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Extremists of any religion are a nightmare. The world is better off without them all.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
No, I'm saying that most normal people perceive an inherent link between Muslims and terrorism. Which, given what has happened, is perfectly understandable.

Are you really telling me that Americans walking past a mosque, 2 blocks from the WTC site aren't going to look at that and think WTF? It doesn't matter that the reality is that the majority of Muslims are just like you and I, and that a small percentage of the population are actually engaged in such activity, it only matters what the perception is.
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Wouldn't it be better to educate the thick people rather than segregate the innocent people?
 
WingZero30 said:
I don't know if you guys heard of this but a US church is planning to burn copies of Quran and is labelling the day as 'Burn a Quran day' on 9/11. This is most shocking. This is going to inflame lots of tensions.
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I had not heard this.
Doesn't seem very 'Christian' behaviour.
Where's the love your fellow man, and do unto others, and the forgiveness?
 
Wicksta said:
Wouldn't it be better to educate the thick people rather than segregate the innocent people?
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Of course it would - no dispute there. The problem, in the US in particular, would seem to be that extremist Christianity has a firm hold. To make matters worse, the media there really doesn't help. How would you even start?
 
The Mad Rapper said:
No, I'm saying that most normal people perceive an inherent link between Muslims and terrorism. Which, given what has happened, is perfectly understandable.

Are you really telling me that Americans walking past a mosque, 2 blocks from the WTC site aren't going to look at that and think WTF? It doesn't matter that the reality is that the majority of Muslims are just like you and I, and that a small percentage of the population are actually engaged in such activity, it only matters what the perception is.
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If you had said that in the first place instead of insinuating that most Muslims are Terrorists and Mosques are monuments to it then I might have been more inclined to agree.
 
Stretch said:
I would imagine that if any group (religious or otherwise) wanted to build a center close to a site that was attacked in its name there would be objections. I would imagine that if any group (religious or otherwise) wanted to build a center close to a site that was attacked in its name there would be objections. There’s nothing special about Islam in my eyes, only the events of the last decade associated with it.
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Fair enough. But like every religion has, there's always bad and good people within it.

If it's a Mosque 2 blocks away then build it, what's the fuss? Like someone earlier said if it was building on the site, then even I would be a bit sceptical.

If it's good for the Muslim community of Manhattan then I don't see the problem?
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Of course it would - no dispute there. The problem, in the US in particular, would seem to be that extremist Christianity has a firm hold. To make matters worse, the media there really doesn't help. How would you even start?
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Well I certainly wouldn't start by giving into the whims of uneducated bigots to be honest - that completely sends out the wrong message. Hopefully by opening the mosque people in the area will see and understand that it's not some bomb making factory.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Of course it would - no dispute there. The problem, in the US in particular, would seem to be that extremist Christianity has a firm hold. To make matters worse, the media there really doesn't help. How would you even start?
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id build a mosque 2 blocks away from "ground zero"
 
Wicksta said:
Well I certainly wouldn't start by giving into the whims of uneducated bigots to be honest - that completely sends out the wrong message. Hopefully by opening the mosque people in the area will see and understand that it's not some bomb making factory.
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How will it? I wouldn't go anywhere near a mosque. Instead of focusing on the religious aspects of the people, it would be better to get Muslims and non-Muslims meeting and intermingling on a routine, day-to-day basis wouldn't it?

I just think trying to forge understanding through religion is a bad idea, when in some aspects the religions are poles apart. But they all have bills to pay, worry about their children etc. There are more common similarities that could be focused on basically.

If that makes sense?
 
no one is 'forcing' anything though - they are building somewhere which if it interests you then you can go and visit it. Where is the actual harm coming from, apart from offending a few ignorant people?
 
Vita said:
Fair enough. But like every religion has, there's always bad and good people within it.

If it's a Mosque 2 blocks away then build it, what's the fuss? Like someone earlier said if it was building on the site, then even I would be a bit sceptical.

If it's good for the Muslim community of Manhattan then I don't see the problem?
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I believe all people are good, it's the religion that turns some of them bad ;)

I agree with you and I don't have a problem with it. But I can understand why some people (especially in Manahattan) might find it controversial.
 
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