do you believe in heaven?

Well I'm what you'd probably call "religious" but I don't believe there's a man with a beard, I don't believe you burn in hell for "sins" and I don't believe you have to go to a church/mosque/whatever to be "saved". I thought for myself, applied logic and reasoning as best as I could given my life experiences, and arrived at my beliefs.

Did I brainwash myself? :confused:
 
Well I'm what you'd probably call "religious" but I don't believe there's a man with a beard, I don't believe you burn in hell for "sins" and I don't believe you have to go to a church/mosque/whatever to be "saved". I thought for myself, applied logic and reasoning as best as I could given my life experiences, and arrived at my beliefs.
What are you religious about?
 
i'm not religious in anyway and don't believe in god.

I'd like to think that the human race has an afterlife.

But i don't think to myself ill go to heaven or hell when i die and thats that.

But deep down we all know that

Born > Life > Old > Dead > Worm / Bird food
 
nope. because otherwise why would all the bad crap happen? heaven implies believing in religion and religion is only any good for starting wars i.e. my gods bigger than your god etc.

atheist over and out. :D
 
What are you religious about?

Visiting GD, mostly. ;) I'm not sure I understand your question tbh, as it's ambiguously worded. I'm assuming you're asking what the basis of my beliefs are.

I'd say I'm a spiritualist rather than a religionist. I believe it doesn't matter what religion or creed you are, but rather it's what you think and do that counts. I could post a wall of text with my experiences and beliefs, but basically I rejected traditional Catholicism/Christianity by around age 9 (it just didn't make rational sense - and yes I investigated lol). I became a Buddhist by age 11, and things progressed from there.

To put it succinctly, I believe we're spiritual beings having a human experience rather than humans who have spiritual experiences.

Yes I believe in an 'afterlife' simply for the reason I believe this life is as transient as a dream in the grand scheme of things. It's more that we have a "before life" rather than there being "this life then the after-life".

No judges, no sins. Just experience, growth, 'karma' and life.
 
Yes I believe in an 'afterlife' simply for the reason I believe this life is as transient as a dream in the grand scheme of things. It's more that we have a "before life" rather than there being "this life then the after-life".
Incredible story about rejecting Christianity and adopting Buddhist principals so young.

W.r.t. your beliefs about the afterlife/transiency, did you come up with this yourself or was it taught to you?
 
Anyone here have any fears about cremating themselves rather than being buried in a coffin whole and juicy?

I dunno, I dont believe in heaven...But i dont like the idea of destroying my body after death. Just in case its connected with something in its complete form.

That make any sense atall??

For instance, as a corpse you decompose and become one with nature again, as ashes, you're basically ash.


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I do actually like the idea of the buddhist religion, Not because of what it offers in terms of afterlife, but the healthy principals it puts forward for life
 
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Incredible story about rejecting Christianity and adopting Buddhist principals so young.

W.r.t. your beliefs about the afterlife/transiency, did you come up with this yourself or was it taught to you?

Six of one, half a dozen of the other really. As I said I couldn't accept Abrahamic religion and began to investigate Buddhism; I read very widely including ancient texts in their original form, Zen, Tibetan Buddhism, Gnosticism, a great many schools of thought. I meditated twice a day, every day, from the age of 11 and still meditate to this day. Add in a number of very personal experiences along the way and my belief system basically formed itself. I used external sources to add to my experiences, accepting or rejecting their teaching based on my experience and knowledge to date.

As the Buddha said (paraphrased) "Test all - even my own - teachings between your teeth as if they were gold. Accept only what makes sense to you, and reject the rest. Never blindly accept or follow anything in blind faith. This is not the way."

To me that's what life is all about. It's your own personal voyage of discovery and growth, and provided you do no harm I couldn't care less what you believe in or what church you do (or don't) attend. All roads eventually lead to Rome kind of thing.

Put another way, I don't believe that there's a man on a cloud who has a specific religion assigned to his creation. Religion is a tool, and like all tools can be used for good or bad.

If there is a deity (and I'd say at this stage I don't have a belief in God, I have an acceptance of 'god' - lower case) then I don't think that the deity would care about his creations' interpretation of his rules.

A parent doesn't care HOW their children wash their hands before a meal, only that they DO wash their hands. "God" doesn't care how you go about your life or use your free will, provided that you do. I'd say the only "rule" is do no harm, or "treat your neighbour as you yourself would wish to be treated". This is a central rule throughout pretty much all religion and I think that's where the issues start.

Some people tend to focus too much on the religion (its structure) instead of its actual message, and humans being human some take it too far. If you ask five men to point to the moon (different religions) it'd be a foolish man who concentrated on the finger instead of the moon. Put another way, you could send the same message by email, snail mail, text and carrier pigeon - but it'd be silly to examine and exalt the delivery method instead of the message itself. :p

But yeah, I'm rambling a little now and probably telling you things you don't want to know about. But this is a topic close to my heart, and I think it's silly to disband all potential of accepting spirituality into your life simply because some other guy somewhere in the world used religion as a bad tool.

Anyone here have any fears about cremating themselves rather than being buried in a coffin whole and juicy?

I dunno, I dont believe in heaven...But i dont like the idea of destroying my body after death. Just in case its connected with something in its complete form.

That make any sense atall??

For instance, as a corpse you decompose and become one with nature again, as ashes, you're basically ash.

But your ashes essentially become one with nature also - unless someone keeps them in a jar. Either way I personally don't think you have anything to worry about. ;)
 
It makes as much sense as you locking all your world's possessions in a vault after death because it might be connected with X, Y, Z.

I don't mean connected in a sentimental way. What I mean is, Ash doesnt decompose, Where as the human body does. And in decompisition we are becoming one with nature. I'm worried that if in dying and taking away the decompisition part of death, we could be stopping something important
 
I don't mean connected in a sentimental way. What I mean is, Ash doesnt decompose, Where as the human body does. And in decompisition we are becoming one with nature. I'm worried that if in dying and taking away the decompisition part of death, we could be stopping something important

This is also what I think...

I mean, why be burried in varnished wood that does not decompose or get cremated and be stored in a vase/get burried?

By doing this, I think the natural cycle of life is being obstructed a bit because after death, we're meant to fertilise soil and give life to other creatures..

I'm no hippie, but I do think this is what should naturally happen after death.
 
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