Whats your opinion

I don't go out with an intention to speed.

I drive at a speed I deem safe for the conditions and road and that's it. Speed limits are arbitrary numbers which at times are dangerous if followed. They are not the be all and end all of road safety if one is to observe and obey every single one - anyone who believes so is an idiot.
 
Or conversely, the majority of drivers think speed traps on motorways DO serve a purpose.

You ought to be careful slinging statistics about, as they often get flung back at you.

Since when is 48% a majority?

You ought to be careful interpreting statistics, it mght get flung back at you.
 
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Since when is 48% a majority?

You ought to be careful interpreting statistics, it mght get flung back at you.

It depends, if 20% expressed no opinion and 32% said that they served no purpose, then 48% is in fact a majority.

I assumed that there was a percentage who just didn't care, and you assumed there wasn't. Without that data from the original survey the stats are meaningless. Even with that extra data the stats are meaningless, who did they ask? How many did they ask? etc.

It's interesting the assumptions that people make and how little they understand about stats yet still feel qualified to make comments.
 
Snowdog was discussing cars today with me and was saying he wants a faster car and will go faster than speed limits. Pretty much any car can go faster than the speed limit Now to me this is dangerous and silly as he wants speed too much imo.

Do you agree with me that its dangerous, irrisposible and can cause accidents more.It could cause more accidents, depends on the person, however you also have to factor in other people can be tards/miss gudge speed etc. An example would have been me today pulling out on a Red Audi cause it flew over a hill at a very fast speed and I had already started pulling out just as he came into sight. Or do you agree with snowdog that meh screw police and go faster than speed limits and just do what u can to get to places quicker and screw everyone else. No he sounds like a ****

Personally im against speeding cos i been in quite a few close calls vs cars speeding compared to safe drivers that dont exceed the speed limit.What about where they put silly 30 limits on dual carriageways. Just becuase someone doesnt speed it doesnt make them a safe driver, they may never check tyre pressures etc.
 
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It depends, if 20% expressed no opinion and 32% said that they served no purpose, then 48% is in fact a majority.

I assumed that there was a percentage who just didn't care, and you assumed there wasn't. Without that data from the original survey the stats are meaningless. Even with that extra data the stats are meaningless, who did they ask? How many did they ask? etc.

It's interesting the assumptions that people make and how little they understand about stats yet still feel qualified to make comments.

Lol at you trying to save face and failing :D

No, 48% is still not be a majority of drivers because there are more drivers who do not "think speed traps on motorways serve any purpose" than "think speed traps on motrways serve any purpose".

And double-lol at you assuming things about the statistics you just tried to discuss, and then in the next breath try to mock people about making assumptions.
 
Lol at you trying to save face and failing :D

No, 48% is still not be a majority of drivers because there are more drivers who do not "think speed traps on motorways serve any purpose" than "think speed traps on motrways serve any purpose".

And double-lol at you assuming things about the statistics you just tried to discuss, and then in the next breath try to mock people about making assumptions.

No, you misunderstand (again), we don't know what the options were, we don't know how many people that were asked didn't have an opinion.

In stats distribution terms, 48% selecting an option is actually pretty high unless the survey didn't allow for a "no opinion" option (which they should include to avoid forcing people to make a decision yes/no/don't care), in which case I'm happy to say that 48% isn't a majority, but that the entire survey is meaningless instead.

I didn't mock people for making assumptions, I mocked people for not realising that they had made assumptions, which was pretty much the point of my first post. Without knowing how many options there were you can't say that 48% of people selecting one of the options isn't a majority.

You see, stats, complex stuff, avoid.

:)
 
Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to avoid stats, I will inevitably be needing basic stats knowledge for the forseeable future :(

Anyway I do agree with you on all points you make in your latest post, especially that without knowing what the population and methods of the survey were, it's impossible to draw any valid conclusions from it.

Sorry if I misinterpreted what you said - although I stand by 48% never being a majority, rather (in situations where there is a 'don't care' option, for example) it is simply the largest fraction, with a majority of people not agreeing to that option. In practical terms of course it's often irrelevant that it's not an absolute majority though, as it is the most popular option. :)
 
It's pretty much generally accepted that if snowdog doesn't change his ways, he will hurt himself.

However keep lovers tiffs to MSN :)
 
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