did you donate to pakistan? i was going to but...

This region has always been a problem area in history, and it will be no different in the future.
Yes I agree the victims need some desperate aid, but not in money !
It should be food parcels, tins, blanks, tents, wood, shelter building equipment.
From documentaries I have seen over the years were aid money goes into pockets of corrupt government officials

People should also remember that it was the British government that created the stats of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. This was when India was granted independence not long after WW2.

Muslim extremists should not be allowed to spread for sure as it is a powerful terrorist movement. We should be friends with Muslims, not hate them and they should except that there are other cultures that do not adhere to the Karan, and western women are individuals, not property of men or families to trade them.

I also agree that Pakistan should have more resources to help its people. Though in the end what is the long term answer to a difficult, troubled area / country !
 
Telescopi said:
Not these days and certainly not in a busy urban area.

Go back 50 years and make it some rural bobby - would you be so sure they wouldn't turn a blind eye then?
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You think the police 50 years ago in this Country would turn a blind eye to multiple public murders? Hmm, interesting.

Tragic story btw :-( Probably happens all the time similar things, but only now getting reported due to Pakistan coming more and more into the spotlight. Media hype.

Why donate? Because people are suffering and we are funding people to go help.
 
I donated £10.

It's not like I'm going to miss it, it's just £10 I can't fritter away on crap I don't need.

If your excuse for not giving money is something to do with Politics or the Pakistan government remember that the people who are in need are NOT the government and allot of them probably OPPOSE that government, you can't blame these people for floods, you can't blame them for the choices of the government and you can't blame them for dying, you can just do a little to help.
 
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Should a country such as Pakistan that has spent billions and billions of dollars on nuclear weapons not be able to help its own people in such dreadful circumstances?

It reminds me of the miners strike in the ‘70s where impoverished coal miners in Eastern Europe actually sent money to support Striking British Miners.

However, if someone shakes a collection tin at me, I’ll donate something!
 
Well the whole Nuclear issue of spending can be related to the UK government. With our troops needing new kit and we are spending 150 Billion up grading a system we already have for wiping out half the known world !
 
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icehot said:
I'm not donating because Cameron says Pakistan supports terrorism :rolleyes:
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The government might but I don't think the citizens, the people actually effected by this, support acts of terrorism.

However how much of the money that is donated actually gets to the people on the ground is a point of contention. It's interesting they've asked for money, not supplies. I imagine some of the money that gets donated is put through companies that will only provide supplies though.
 
I still think supplies should be donated and shipped out. If they have the supplies in Pakistany companyies then the Pakistany Governemnt should be funding it.
So AID should be mostly in the form of hard ware and goods !
 
Tysonator said:
Well the whole Nuclear issue of spending can be related to the UK government. With our troops needing new kit and we are spending 150 Billion up grading a system we already have for wiping out half the known world !
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I thought we only had something like 70 missiles? That isn't anywhere near enough to wipe out half the world! :D
 
Tysonator said:
Well the whole Nuclear issue of spending can be related to the UK government. With our troops needing new kit and we are spending 150 Billion up grading a system we already have for wiping out half the known world !
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It isn't quite on the same scale as Pakistan, we are one of the richest countries, the amount we spend on Nukes is pretty small considering our GDP.

Where as Pakistan is the 44th richest nation yet has nukes when only about 6 nations have them. Punching above your weight much?

Anyway it is a complex situation and I suppose the people can't help it if there is a nutter in charge so I gave a few Pence. Probably been spent on AK47 bullets by now like.
 
I'd never donate money to a country so messed up.

I don't earn enough and even if i did the money could be better spent.
 
i need all my money myself thanks to below inflation pay rises over the last 5 years and now an unjust public sector pay freeze, which in effect means an effective 3% pay cut thanks to inflation. All my bills have gone up and my pay has gone no where, so as far as I am concerned charity can go swivel!
 
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? There was some police brutality once so everyone in the country deserves to die?

OVEREACTION MUCH?!

I never donate to anyone unless its an English cause, we have enough problems in our own country to solve first. Hence why I find it unbeievable how overseas aid has not only been ringfenced but the budget increased despite all the cuts :confused:
 
I simply won't donate to these types of countries. The majority of their populations lives in abject poverty, whilst a select few earn billions. And all the while their governments spend billions on nuclear weapons programs, nuclear subs, and various other programs designed to do anything but help their own people. I may not be able to control where our overseas aid goes, but I sure as hell won't spend what little of my own money is not taxed on corrupt regimes like those.
 
Trying to decide what to take from this thread and the most poignant thing is the lack of sympathy being used to reinforce the current theme of political beliefs, i.e. wholesale general anti-Muslim state feelings. I get the impression the same responses would have occurred had this natural disaster occurred elsewhere between Turkey and Pakistan. Though curiously I wonder about peoples' replies if say a large natural disaster had hit e.g. Israel or India.
 
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