Most pc games are now console ports.

I agree, it is a shame. There are lots of reasons why it's better for developers to make console games at the moment.
 
Relentless81 said:
This is the biggest pile of crap i've read in terms of PC slating, it really amazing what some people come out with. You clearly havent played BC2 on a console and a decent PC because if you had, you wouldnt be spouting such absolute rubbish
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really? perhaps you shouldnt jump to conlusions considering i have played it and im in a bloody bf2/bc2 clan (s18) you utter muppet.
oh and its all maxed out.

its got nothing to do with pc slating, perhaps you should stop getting so defensive and wake up a little?

now as you clearly cant accept facts let me spell this out to you.
The bad company series was made for CONSOLES yes CONSOLES, It was then moved to PC for the 2nd version. Again we were lucky to get any version considering its concept was all wrapped around a console and the pad.

my point still stands - pc gamers like chucking money at hype and cpus/gpus that really dont offer anything new to a gaming experience just bc billy no mates said it was the best thing since sliced bread.
i should know i used to do it.... and then i woke up and realised that having an xbox/ps3 over spending money on a new 400 gpu was a great choice.

further to this if you really think devs in this day and age have money to burn on trying to implement features into games that a very small minority will experience (like graphical increases, textures etc) then you seriously need to understand the market at present.
 
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I've never played BC2 but I just watched a few videos to see how much better the PC version is.

PC: (skip to 1:30 to see first person)

PS3: (skip the first 2:00 minutes, he just camps)

The PC version is better but I wouldn't call it night and day. I'm not sure it would be enough to tempt most people into getting a PC. If I was was getting that game I would get the PC version, just because I have the choice but if I only had the PS3, I'd happily play that. I play plenty of PC games that look no better. I'm just here for the games. Considering the hardware each version is running on, you could argue that you are getting more for your money with the PS3 version. I think comments of "looks 10x better" and "PC version destroys the console version" are thrown around quite loosely at times.
 
even games that arent ports have limitations that are obviously only their because its easier for them to port to xbox360 that way, most pc games that get ported are often developed with console standards aswell.

which is why most pc games are the type of game you would expect to find on a console.

its rare to see a "true" pc game

people can say bc2 is a pc game all they i ask you two questions.

how big are the maps? , what is the max ammount of players on a map?

i remember 10 years ago a pc game with huge maps and 124 player severs, even bf2 had 64player?
 
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At least we still get games released on PC, ports or not better than no new games on PC at all.

PC is really only a platform for MMO games and we still get some cracking games like SC2 and D3 in development.
 
iamtheoneneo said:
really? perhaps you shouldnt jump to conlusions considering i have played it and im in a bloody bf2/bc2 clan (s18) you utter muppet.
oh and its all maxed out.

its got nothing to do with pc slating, perhaps you should stop getting so defensive and wake up a little?

my point still stands - pc gamers like chucking money at hype and cpus/gpus that really dont offer anything new to a gaming experience just bc billy no mates said it was the best thing since sliced bread.
i should know i used to do it.... and then i woke up and realised that having an xbox/ps3 over spending money on a new 400 gpu was a great choice.

further to this if you really think devs in this day and age have money to burn on trying to implement features into games that a very small minority will experience (like graphical increases, textures etc) then you seriously need to understand the market at present.
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I'm not jumping to conclusions, the crap you spouted would indicate you have never played it on both, the PC version is better, it looks better, it plays better, its factual so the stuff you blarted out doesnt make sense

What you crying for and calling me a muppet!? Put the keyboard down.

Like I say how can I be defensive when I was picking you up on spouting crap the PC version of BC2 doesnt play like a console port such as MW2, it plays superior to the console version its a fact

PC gamers chuck money at PC's because of the end result, devs have been adding additional graphical differences to PC's versions for years over and above the console version, DX, Anti Aliasing and its varients. I get the feeling you have no idea what you are talking about
 
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apatia77 said:
At least we still get games released on PC, ports or not better than no new games on PC at all.
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If the next generation of consoles decide not to go down the ATI/Nvidia route this time and make or have someone make a custom GPU then there might not even be ports. What if the next generation of consoles were not DirectX based?


and before anyone say it, I know that's what the 'X' in Xbox means
 
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mame said:
If the next generation of consoles decide not to go down the ATI/Nvidia route this time and make or have someone make a custom GPU then there might not even be ports. What if the next generation of consoles were not DirectX based?


and before anyone say it, I know that's what the 'X' in Xbox means
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Yeah but why would they do this? Wouldn't it be harder to code the games ie increased cost etc?
 
arknor said:
even games that arent ports have limitations that are obviously only their because its easier for them to port to xbox360 that way, most pc games that get ported are often developed with console standards aswell.

which is why most pc games are the type of game you would expect to find on a console.

its rare to see a "true" pc game

people can say bc2 is a pc game all they i ask you two questions.

how big are the maps? , what is the max ammount of players on a map?

i remember 10 years ago a pc game with huge maps and 124 player severs, even bf2 had 64player?
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and if you're going to call a pc game based on it's map size how big are the cs maps?
 
apatia77 said:
Yeah but why would they do this? Wouldn't it be harder to code the games ie increased cost etc?
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I don't know really, it was just a thought. MS/Sony must pay ATI/Nvidia quite a bit of money of use their GPUs. Sony especially have the people and the money for R+D on all sorts of products. Historically, most consoles have used custom GPUs, it just so happens that the current gen use GPUs based on the same architecture as PC GPUs so they have the easy option of porting the game. The PC is more powerful so efficiency isn't always a priority. I was just thinking, what if the next gen consoles use something else, it's possible.

I'm not sure about harder to code for. Looking at previous generations of consoles, they change completely each time.
 
Tefal said:
and if you're going to call a pc game based on it's map size how big are the cs maps?
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Not exactly a recent game is it :P Source was just a port of original CS to show off what could be ported to the source engine so really youre comparing it to CS which is 9-10 years old or something? :P
 
People keep forgetting the BC2 maps are actually larger than the BF2 maps, and the largest of the series by a considerable margin.
 
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People keep forgetting the BC2 maps are actually larger than the BF2 maps, and the largest of the series by a considerable margin.
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I think people are saying that the PC version has been given the same 'limit' as the console versions.
 
Phal said:
Not exactly a recent game is it :P Source was just a port of original CS to show off what could be ported to the source engine so really youre comparing it to CS which is 9-10 years old or something? :P
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but it's still on e of the most popular pc fps's.

people don't seem to mind the small maps. as it's just some random thing that only applies if the size doesn't fit the game play.
 
This thread has simply confirmed my thoughts that everyone regards games as graphics and nothing more.

It's a sad day.
 
PC Gaming is now a shadow of its former glory, i dont think anyone can seriously deny it whilst keeping a straight face. I've played PC games pretty much my whole life and am a lifelong supporter (i had never owned a console until xbox 360)

I'm not going to spend time listing the reasons why, but the 3 big things that i dislike about the PC's slow decline are:

- not so much moddability of the games anymore and devs dont seem to like it happening

- the gradual dumbing down of the games e.g Supreme Commander, various RPG's, Battlefield series

- pc games being held back technically - my 4 year old pc can still run the latest games on high and the games arent pushing the boundaries anymore, and i doubt they will till the PS4/Xbox 1080

However i still love PC gaming and will support it. But people should acknowledge the decline instead of burying their heads in the sand
 
Tefal said:
and if you're going to call a pc game based on it's map size how big are the cs maps?
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cs isnt suposed to simulate a warzone its primarily a tactical game.

my point was since bf1942 barely any steps forward have been made in the battlefield series, if anything EA have taken steps back for the console market.

many genres have been simplified some of the football management games in the last few years have had less features than football manager games on the amgia :rolleyes:

i understand console gamers want something they can play infront of the TV and many of them want a game thats easy to pick up and play.

pc games used to be almost the oposite coming with catalogue sized manuals because they had content, all we have these days is pick up and play with prettyier graphics than a console has
 
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