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bhavv said:
Get MSI afterburner 1.6.1, go into settings and unlock the voltage tweak option, and then increase the voltage slider.

You need to increase the voltage to get to 850 Mhz and beyond, aroun 1.050 - 1.087 (which is the max allowed). The stock voltage is 0.975, but the Asus / MSI / Gigabyte can easily handle more.



Gotta try furmarking it to test for stability and temps :). The other guy with the palit is getting 80 degrees at 800 Mhz.
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Running it now it is hovering around 70-72.c @ 880 mhz... I do have a 120mm fan sat on the side of my case blowing directly on to it so maybe that is helping....
 
MOOGLEYS said:
Running it now it is hovering around 70-72.c @ 880 mhz... I do have a 120mm fan sat on the side of my case blowing directly on to it so maybe that is helping....
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Yea that will be why. Also it shouldnt get too high with just a single card. You should be completely fine then, the latest bios should eliminate the whining.

Basically anything between 850-900 is great on these, so you got lucky for a Palit :)
 
MOOGLEYS said:
Have taken the core to 900 now and its still running ok temp up to 75.c
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Test for artifacts in Vantage, they would look like sparkly colorful stars at the top of the screen. If you get those then its too high.

I couldnt see any artifacts in furmark, while there were loads in Vantage at 900 Mhz.

If you have no artifacts at 900 Mhz, keep the thing for definate, thats a great GPU, just with bad stock cooling and whining noise :p
 
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p0rks0da said:
You should be seeing 100-150% faster in some games like Crysis.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/178?vs=180
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i dont play crysis, i play COH which is a very demanding game but is partially more system limited.

but look at 3dmark scores they dont double or treble.

on that list its only crysis that sees anything like that kind of performance jump, the rest are close to 100% i guess...but im still dubious
 
bhavv said:
Get MSI afterburner 1.6.1, go into settings and unlock the voltage tweak option, and then increase the voltage slider.

You need to increase the voltage to get to 850 Mhz and beyond, aroun 1.050 - 1.087 (which is the max allowed). The stock voltage is 0.975, but the Asus / MSI / Gigabyte can easily handle more.



Gotta try furmarking it to test for stability and temps :). The other guy with the palit is getting 80 degrees at 800 Mhz.
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Cheers for the advice! :)

I think the core on mine sits at 0.975 so I'll do some testing to see what results I get. I already have afterburner (which is what I used to up it to 800mhz); there seems to be an option in afterburner to set the vcore to be a fixed level (off by default it seems), best to leave this off or turn it on when raising the voltage?
 
Seems to be running Vantage ok no artifacting...

I dont think i will take it any higher as i,m not sure i,m going to keep the card yet. Really dont want it to go up in smoke...
 
Also, I'd make sure you have a side fan if overclocking, definately needed for two cards, and it should help with one card as well.

MOOGLEYS said:
Seems to be running Vantage ok no artifacting...
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Its a keeper then, just get the bios update from Palit.

I should try each of mine individually.
 
bhavv said:
Also, I'd make sure you have a side fan if overclocking, definately needed for two cards, and it should help with one card as well.



Its a keeper then, just get the bios update from Palit.

I should try each of mine individually.
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I,m quite supprised how well it is doing seeing as it has the non heatpipe heatsink...

Anyway benchmarks mean nowt i will give it a good session later on my most played selection of games and see how it performs then....
 
Nickg said:
i dont play crysis, i play COH which is a very demanding game but is partially more system limited.

but look at 3dmark scores they dont double or treble.

on that list its only crysis that sees anything like that kind of performance jump, the rest are close to 100% i guess...but im still dubious
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I play CoH as well, my favourite RTS of all time (300+ hours played according to Steam, how sad is that lol).

I notice you talk about 3Dmark a lot on the forums, can i ask why you think it's the best indicator of gaming performance? I understand the point of it as a competitive tool, but as a general performance indicator? It's not even based on a commercial game engine, it's 100% synthetic.
 
I play CoH as well, my favourite RTS of all time (300+ hours played according to Steam, how sad is that lol).
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check the 2v2 AT Allied leaderboards for Nickg07 and shermanOP (bth my accounts) and sort by most wins, that should tell u how much i play. Im not on steam i had retail copy and now TOV. currently one account is in the top 10 (of all time) and if u added them up i think we would be no1 or 2 in the all time wins list. my crazy teammate Bulgakov/worse4wehr is also the number 1 ranked 2v2 random US player or was last week. so i know what is what when it comes to CoH and CoH performance having played it on 8800GT, 5830 1GB, GTX 470 and GTX 460.


I notice you talk about 3Dmark a lot on the forums, can i ask why you think it's the best indicator of gaming performance?
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its an indicator of relative performance. it is 100% synthetic it tells me if an 8800GT gets me 11,000 marks and a GTX 460 gets me 14,800 marks then the the GTX 460 is on average 34% faster than a 8800GT could be given its theoretical fill rate, mem bandwith ec.

games change, for instance with COH its very CPU limited...but crysis is more GPU limited...3dmark removes the CPU impact (mostly) so you get relative gfx performance without system differences being too impacting on the data out.
 
Nickg said:
check the 2v2 AT Allied leaderboards for Nickg07 and shermanOP (bth my accounts) and sort by most wins, that should tell u how much i play. Im not on steam i had retail copy and now TOV. currently one account is in the top 10 (of all time) and if u added them up i think we would be no1 or 2 in the all time wins list. my crazy teammate Bulgakov/worse4wehr is also the number 1 ranked 2v2 random US player or was last week. so i know what is what when it comes to CoH and CoH performance having played it on 8800GT, 5830 1GB, GTX 470 and GTX 460.
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I never mentioned anything about CoH performance, i just mentioned it since you said you played the game. I know it runs like a dog, but the GTX460 is massively faster than my old 4850 (which is a little faster than the 8800GT). I don't know what the % difference is in the benchmark, and i don't have the 4850 anymore to test, but i can now run with almost everything cranked at playable framerates, that was just impossible with the 4850.


its an indicator of relative performance. it is 100% synthetic it tells me if an 8800GT gets me 11,000 marks and a GTX 460 gets me 14,800 marks then the the GTX 460 is on average 34% faster than a 8800GT could be given its theoretical fill rate, mem bandwith ec.

games change, for instance with COH its very CPU limited...but crysis is more GPU limited...3dmark removes the CPU impact (mostly) so you get relative gfx performance without system differences being too impacting on the data out.
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Yes i understand it's use for relative performance (hence why it's useful for competition) but my point is that it's no more of a general performance indicator than any other benchmark. In fact it's worse than benchmarks made using proper engines used in shipping games, because you will never ever play a game running on that engine.

Game engines do vary a lot by their very nature, that's why 3DMark is only an accurate representation of performance in 3DMark, nothing else.
 
CoH would be smooth.

except its the damn lighting say on Lorraine on the lower right fuel and up at the top outside the front of the church. IF i max everyting out and go to these 2 areas and hover or zoom in/ zoom out my fps from from 55-60 to like 38...and slight microstutter momentarily.

if i turn down some effects and shadows i can almost gloss over it like the problem didnt happen but this is at the degredation of graphics around the rest of the map:/ grgrgrgr
 
Im in the mood to start playing Battleforge again, if my system restore ever completes :p

Looks like it will be done within a few more hours.
 
Yep i notice slowdown in certain areas with heavy lighting, and i presume i am much more CPU limited than you (don't know what CPU you have but i'm guessing much better than my E6750). At 1920x1080 4xAA i generally get about 35fps on smaller maps, something like 25 on 3v3 like Scheldt. It's still playable for me though, but i might try lowering AA to see if that helps. When i upgrade to Sandy Bridge i think i should see a decent boost.
 
i have a q6600 @ 3.15Ghz plus 4GB ram.

is not the CPU i dont think, i can tweak the settings and stuff and get it not to happen as much...i play 1080p too (btw u must set a custom resolution profile in nv control panel to allow 60fps with vsync).

i only play 2v2 really and fps below 55 is not acceptable. i run 2-8x AF and 2-4x FSAA enable forced V Sync in drivers, tick triple buffering.
 
I think that if you have enabled V-sync and triple buffering you get 38fps if the framerate drops below 55fps as 2/3 of 55 is 38 (I think triple buffering works that way)
 
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