DC2 vs. RX8

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MikeHiow said:
I just wish I'd realised this earlier.
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Gosh yes, imagine if people had pointed out in the past how keeping the ST as a family car was the best idea, allowing you to buy something else as a toy.

But as usual, only MikeHiow is ever right, so you criticised the suggestions and dismissed them :)
 
I'm sure this must have been covered before, but why on earth would you keep the ST for "family car" duties when you've already got a Mondeo?

From the sounds of it you already have a toy (The ST) and a family car (The mondeo), so you're going to sell the Mondeo, buy a Type R and end up in the same position? In fact you'd be in an arguably worse position - I refuse to see how a "sporty" medium sized (2 door?) hatchback is going to be a better family car than a Mondeo...
 
Because the ST is just like a lesser model Focus, but better in every way - I'd much rather drive the ST day to day than a normal model, despite the differences in fuel economy (Which isn't great unless you suffer the 1.6). Its more comfortable most of the time, it drives beautifully, torque rocks for normal driving and it still manages to remind you that you are driving something slightly special every time you go out in it. The Mondeo is dog **** compared to the ST.

A DC2 is a lot more focussed than the ST - it doesn't try to be a super comfy, easy to live with daily driver - it tries to be a genuinely good drivers car, a fairly raw one from my experience, too. I'm fed up with compromise, and whilst I'm not out of it completely, I can't afford an Elise or a decent Caterham quite yet :)

Yes Fox, I was wrong - I'm perfectly capable of admitting it.
 
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So much hypocrisy.

A DC2 is obviously not for you.

Stick with your RX8 idea. Can't afford one? Save up a little longer then.
 
fonzee said:
So much hypocrisy.

A DC2 is obviously not for you.
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fonzee said:
Stick with your RX8 idea. Can't afford one? Save up a little longer then.
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It isn't a case of being able to afford it, its about what I'm willing to spend for a given purpose. I want a car to abuse on the road, abuse at autotests and abuse at trackdays. Why would spending £1500 on an RX8 be a better choice for what I need?
 
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Hrm, I look at it as an RX8 is too good/expensive to abuse. Although I don't need to, even if I did save an extra £1500, that wouldn't make the RX8 any more suitable for what I want.
 
MikeHiow said:
Hrm, I look at it as an RX8 is too good/expensive to abuse. Although I don't need to, even if I did save an extra £1500, that wouldn't make the RX8 any more suitable for what I want.
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Whats the threshold for too good to thrash? Thats an odd comment.
 
Most people would consider a DC2 too good/expensive to "abuse".

If money is such an issue that you don't want to shell out an extra £1500 on a car that you claim to like so much, why don't you save yourself a fair bit quid and get a far cheaper hoon car?
 
He cant afford to run an RX8 and a Focus ST but he's so proud he can't admit this on the internet, so he needs to shift some paradigms of capital release or something instead.

Lame really, most of us are happy to admit we cant afford to run two performance cars, its not exactly unheard of is it, infact hardly anyone can!
 
That isn't really it at all - running costs of the "hoon car" are irrelevant, as it'll do next to no mileage - not that a DC2 is going to be significantly cheaper to run, anyway.

The DC2 is going to have better residuals, too.
 
I'm really confused why you'd be even thinking about residual values on a car that you fully intend on trashing the living crap out of :confused:.

Money is obviously an issue - What's wrong with one of the many, MANY £1000 - £1500 cars out there that would make an ideal hoon car?
 
[TW]Fox;17268585 said:
He cant afford to run an RX8 and a Focus ST but he's so proud he can't admit this on the internet, so he needs to shift some paradigms of capital release or something instead.

Lame really, most of us are happy to admit we cant afford to run two performance cars, its not exactly unheard of is it, infact hardly anyone can!
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Agreed, when I had both the Mustang and EVO together, insuring, taxing and running both cost a bloody lot of money, hell I could mortgage a pretty damn nice house for the cost involved.

Could I afford it well just about, was it sensible, definetely not. Unlike property cars just loose more and more money.

So it was not sensible to keep both and was a huge drain on my cash supply and hence the Mustang was sold. Selling the Mustang means I can live a decent lifestyle that just does not revolve around cars. :)
 
I think Mike wakes each day, and opens an email which tells him his opinion for the day. It's the only explanation.
 
Simon said:
I think Mike wakes each day, and opens an email which tells him his opinion for the day. It's the only explanation.
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I think he's so deep in his web of lies he doesn't know what the truth is anymore. Every day he says something completely different. The sheer number of cars he's been almost about to buy over the last year are just ridiculous, for example.
 
[TW]Fox;17268220 said:
Gosh yes, imagine if people had pointed out in the past how keeping the ST as a family car was the best idea, allowing you to buy something else as a toy.

But as usual, only MikeHiow is ever right, so you criticised the suggestions and dismissed them :)
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[TW]Fox said:
I think he's so deep in his web of lies he doesn't know what the truth is anymore. Every day he says something completely different. The sheer number of cars he's been almost about to buy over the last year are just ridiculous, for example.
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I don't understand, one minute you were telling me I was wrong before, and now you're telling me I'm wrong now, and lying, too?

I do wonder if you just argue for the sake of arguing.

Joshy said:
I'm really confused why you'd be even thinking about residual values on a car that you fully intend on trashing the living crap out of .

Money is obviously an issue - What's wrong with one of the many, MANY £1000 - £1500 cars out there that would make an ideal hoon car?
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Decent residuals are a good thing, because I can sell it at any time without really losing any money.

I can't think of any car that is £1000-£1500 that I'd really want to own.

Gibbo said:
Agreed, when I had both the Mustang and EVO together, insuring, taxing and running both cost a bloody lot of money, hell I could mortgage a pretty damn nice house for the cost involved.

Could I afford it well just about, was it sensible, definetely not. Unlike property cars just loose more and more money.

So it was not sensible to keep both and was a huge drain on my cash supply and hence the Mustang was sold. Selling the Mustang means I can live a decent lifestyle that just does not revolve around cars. :)
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You're talking about two very expensive cars to own and run. I'm talking about two relatively cheap performance cars, both to own and run.

Simon said:
I think Mike wakes each day, and opens an email which tells him his opinion for the day. It's the only explanation.
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Care to explain this one? Where has my opinion changed?

Kenai said:
You have to bear in mind he lives on the Isle of Wight...

Imagine the inbreeding of Norfolk but on an island.
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You're cool. You clearly have nothing to add, so resort to insults.
 
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