I'm sick of foreign people

[semi-pro waster]

then you wouldnt be living, nor would you be human.

the mind makes judgements, some for better, some for worse.

but anyway people are tribalistic by nature. sure it doesnt matter which lump of rock you were born to. just or who you were born of actually. or who you are related to...

oh wait, yes it does matter to practically every individual on the planet.

So knowing that the mind will often make judgements about someone based on information that doesn't really matter in regard to what sort of a person they are and that sometimes these judgements will be plain wrong anyway then should we not seek to strive towards minimising the impact that these judgements have on our interactions with others?

Knowing that you do something whether intentionally or not puts you some way to being able to limit the effects of what you do, particularly in a negative sense.

 

[The Running Man]

whats the point in setting an unachievable ideal?

what you are asking for is basically is the removal of human nature.

maybe if they injected us all with horse tranquilisers at birth and kept us sedated then maybe we could all be nice, not think about anything and act as you wish. like a bunch of generic spuds.

i dont know which planet your on but this generic illusion of eutopia is actually dystopian to humanity.

your asking to normalise everything - to remove or look past any differences. yet these differences are what defines who we are as individuals?

the world would be a very boring place should that be the case.

 

[Linda]

The day humanity lives in harmony is the day that people stop segregating themselves into sub-societies and blindly following those societies like they are ingrained in their DNA.

You're not English, you're human. Sure, you were born geographically on a lump of land which belongs to a government and as such you were processed by that government as a member of their society. It's nice, it feels friendly, it doesn't feel like you're just another headcount towards the mechanics of mass organisation, granted. But you are. Your social liberties, your leaps and bounds that you have over other countries are not because you're a great member of that society, it's just so that you can pay your way out of the debt that you owe that society through work, taxes, retail purchases, tourism and input. You're just a packaged investment like the others born every minute in the UK.

You're lucky. You're probably a white male with good British heritage. You're a tiny proportion of a global population, and you have lucked out. You started with no handicap in life, no back footing. You were born at the front of the queue, pretty much as close to the front as you can get, relatively speaking.

And so what now, you think that your social liberty (via luck no less) entitles you to some kind of casual bigotry over people in this world who are trying to share a slice of what you take for granted? Because these freedoms come too easily to you, others should take a back seat and accept a lesser or different way of living?

After all, it's not like the massive narrow-minded nature of blind following is the fuel for most conflict in this world.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

Imagine if we lived in a world where you didn't judge someone for being on a different street to you, or a football team for being different to yours, or a southerner for not being from the north, or a country for not speaking or acting as yours does. Will it take a band of aliens destroying the world to finally realise that our stupid little societies are different versions of the same thing, all living for the same reason and enjoying the same life that they try to extract as much happiness as possible from? You're a person, others are different, no two are the same, but that's the beauty of it.

Well said.

Life would be boring if we had nothing to complain, moan or whinge about plus it's in our nature to pick on each other and draw attention to differences.

It is also in our nature to go with the flow and live in a society were that won't affect me so I won't say or do anything about it. But when it goes clearly wrong the words are strong.

 

[Sawell]

whats the point in setting an unachievable ideal?

what you are asking for is basically is the removal of human nature.

maybe if they injected us all with horse tranquilisers at birth and kept us sedated then maybe we could all be nice, not think about anything and act as you wish. like a bunch of generic spuds.

i dont know which planet your on but this generic illusion of eutopia is actually dystopian to humanity.

You realise you just effectively asked what the point of an ideal was, not this specific ideal?

The entire point of the ideal is to remove or harbour the perception that societies matter as much as you think they do. The fact that you are sat there relying on your society to align with this ideal just proves that you can't understand the underlying principal in the first place.

 

[semi-pro waster]

whats the point in setting an unachievable ideal?

what you are asking for is basically is the removal of human nature.

maybe if they injected us all with horse tranquilisers at birth and kept us sedated then maybe we could all be nice, not think about anything and act as you wish. like a bunch of generic spuds.

i dont know which planet your on but this generic illusion of eutopia is actually dystopian to humanity.

your asking to normalise everything - to remove or look past any differences. yet these differences are what defines who we are as individuals?

the world would be a very boring place should that be the case.

Is this to me or Sawell? If you don't aim high with ideals then what's the point in having them at all? I'm not seeking to normalise everything except that I'd seek basic human courtesy in peoples interactions with each other e.g. if you know you've got an unreasoning prejudice against someone for the colour of their skin or because they come from a different country or whatever then I'd ask that steps were taken to limit the impact of this prejudice.

There's no simple single answer to how people can deal with each other because differences can be great, equally however I don't think that acting on prejudices in a negative way is healthy either. Therefore the closest I can come to a universal code of conduct I'd like to see is that people treat others with respect initially regardless of their differences unless the people they interact with provide a reason to withdraw that respect.

 

[The Running Man]

You realise you just effectively asked what the point of an ideal was, not this specific ideal?

not when the ideal if achieved would completely eradicate any traits of the human race. we could aspire to your ideal and become a non human race. but is that really the ideal to strive for, i have my doubts.

it goes like this, Setting an Ideal: as a Man Utd fan would be for Man Utd to win every match without conceding a goal. An analogy to what you have done is to set the ideal of Man Utd to win every horse race in a season.

The entire point of the ideal is to remove or harbour the perception that societies matter as much as you think they do.

so if you remove the societal aspect of human nature, you end up in a barren world of individualism. - this would require descrimination and judgement to be even more distinct than it is now. the principle in question is deeply flawed and deep routed into some kind of utopian you have decided would fit best on our planet. but the reality is that the ideal is unachievable, but would also force us to redifine what we are and how we function as humans.

you seem to want to deconstruct the close knit societies to build a larger one, in simplistic terms. i can understand the desire to make these societies less insular, but really can you ever forsee or want to be a part a state where mother, father, family, friends - mean no more than jo briggs? but then conversely, you mean no more than jo briggs does to your parents, or family.

we can see this goes against even basic animal paternal instincts, let alone the tendancies of a human. i think you need to rethink what you want, or what you really mean.

 

[Viper²]

I know that junction very well and can't see any reason why foreign signs would be put up.
In fact I've never seen any foreign road signs anywhere along that road.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...=BpDV3oP8Lh7F8KWjSLzcmw&cbp=12,146.12,,0,0.59

That picture isn't photoshopped. Those roadsigns were there around 2008 (I think).

 

[stockhausen]

That picture isn't photoshopped. Those roadsigns were there around 2008 (I think).

Uni. Rag Week

 

[TangoSixteen]

I complained when the local Natwest put signs up inside in Polish, and had Polish leaflets.

A few weeks later all the Polish stuff had been taken down and removed, so I cant have been the only one.

Disgusting really...

 

[Wicksta]

I complained when the local Natwest put signs up inside in Polish, and had Polish leaflets.

A few weeks later all the Polish stuff had been taken down and removed, so I cant have been the only one.

Disgusting really...

Disgusting that bigots like you complain about something that doesn't affect you? I've lived abroad for 5 years and although I learnt the language a lot of the time (especially when it comes to bank small print) English translations are offered. I know you're probably just trolling as usual though, that's all you seem to do since you came back, sorry I mean joined here.

 

[Cosimo]

I complained when the local Natwest put signs up inside in Polish, and had Polish leaflets.

A few weeks later all the Polish stuff had been taken down and removed, so I cant have been the only one.

Disgusting really...

I've asked my council to have stupid English trolling bigoted people like you put down.

 

[TangoSixteen]

I've asked my council to have stupid English trolling bigoted people like you put down.

*tumbleweed*

jokeFAIL

 

[stockhausen]

I complained when the local Natwest put signs up inside in Polish, and had Polish leaflets.

A few weeks later all the Polish stuff had been taken down and removed, so I cant have been the only one.

Disgusting really...

I would have to say that I found the retarded Nationwide advert featuring Matt Lucas and David Walliams far more depressing and offensive than I would find signs and leaflets in Polish but it never occurred to me to complain about the adverts - perhaps I should do?

 

[TheCenturion]

*tumbleweed*

jokeFAIL

Please tell me then: why is it a problem having 'foreigners' in our country. And then, please explain what your 'solution' to this problem would be.

 

[iKettles]

Why do you see multi-culturism to be a bad thing? Are you just completely intolerant of anyone different to yourself?

 

[Sawell]

not when the ideal if achieved would completely eradicate any traits of the human race. we could aspire to your ideal and become a non human race. but is that really the ideal to strive for, i have my doubts.

it goes like this, Setting an Ideal: as a Man Utd fan would be for Man Utd to win every match without conceding a goal. An analogy to what you have done is to set the ideal of Man Utd to win every horse race in a season.



so if you remove the societal aspect of human nature, you end up in a barren world of individualism. - this would require descrimination and judgement to be even more distinct than it is now. the principle in question is deeply flawed and deep routed into some kind of utopian you have decided would fit best on our planet. but the reality is that the ideal is unachievable, but would also force us to redifine what we are and how we function as humans.

you seem to want to deconstruct the close knit societies to build a larger one, in simplistic terms. i can understand the desire to make these societies less insular, but really can you ever forsee or want to be a part a state where mother, father, family, friends - mean no more than jo briggs? but then conversely, you mean no more than jo briggs does to your parents, or family.

we can see this goes against even basic animal paternal instincts, let alone the tendancies of a human. i think you need to rethink what you want, or what you really mean.

I am talking about utilising humanism as a thought provoking concept to remove or dampen bigotry and prejudice at an individual level.

Much in the same way that you might tell someone that if they picked up all their litter and recycled it may not change the world but it may change the way in which you perceive the world, and perhaps make you feel a little better along the way.

Fundamentally you are confusing this with a debate about humanism or a proposal for global cultural reform.

 

[TangoSixteen]

Please tell me then: why is it a problem having 'foreigners' in our country. And then, please explain what your 'solution' to this problem would be.

Easy.

Any immigrant without a social security number gets held in prison before being sent home.

Anyone arriving without a visa gets sent back on the first plane and isnt allowed to leave the airport.

Any immigrant who commits any crime, get sent back, and not fed and watered in jail at OUR expense.

No benefits for immigrants.

No social housing for immigrants.

Immigrants should pay more tax that British people.

Immigrants should be made to pay for the NHS until they have paid tax for 5 years or more.

Immigrants who bring family over illegally get sent back.

Any immigrants who fail in any of the above get deported.

Burkhas and mosques get banned.

Anyone who cant speak English get sent back

Asylum seekers are no longer allowed. - They get sent back.

Lorries with immigrants on board get refused entry into the UK, until the immigrants are sent back.

 

[Vita]

Easy.

Any immigrant without a social security number gets held in prison before being sent home.

Anyone arriving without a visa gets sent back on the first plane and isnt allowed to leave the airport.

Any immigrant who commits any crime, get sent back, and not fed and watered in jail at OUR expense.

No benefits for immigrants.

No social housing for immigrants.

Immigrants should pay more tax.

Immigrants should be made to pay for the NHS until they have paid tax for 5 years or more.

Immigrants who bring family over illegally get sent back.

Any immigrants who fail in any of the above get deported.

Burkhas and mosques get banned.

Anyone who cant speak English get sent back

Asylum seekers are no longer allowed. - They get sent back.

Lorries with immigrants on board get refused entry into the UK, until the immigrants are sent back.

Lol. Let's also ban Sikh Mandars/Hindu Temples/And Synagogue's while we're at it.

 

[B&W]

Easy.

Any immigrant without a social security number gets held in prison before being sent home.

Anyone arriving without a visa gets sent back on the first plane and isnt allowed to leave the airport.

Any immigrant who commits any crime, get sent back, and not fed and watered in jail at OUR expense.

No benefits for immigrants.

No social housing for immigrants.

Immigrants should pay more tax that British people.

Immigrants should be made to pay for the NHS until they have paid tax for 5 years or more.

Immigrants who bring family over illegally get sent back.

Any immigrants who fail in any of the above get deported.

Burkhas and mosques get banned.

Anyone who cant speak English get sent back

Asylum seekers are no longer allowed. - They get sent back.

Lorries with immigrants on board get refused entry into the UK, until the immigrants are sent back.

Why don't we just send you back to the cave you come from.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Immigrants should pay more tax that British people.

Burkhas and mosques get banned.

Why?