Astra vs Mondeo

because in reality, the astra isnt actually THAT bad is it... lets be honest. its only percieved to be on here, just another typical ocuk rumour that has evolved into 'fact', portraying the car being the worst vehicle in production on our roads.

but thats a whole different chapter thats already been covered a billion times on here.

but yes, more info required on both cars tbh.
 
because in reality, the astra isnt actually THAT bad is it... lets be honest. its only percieved to be on here, just another typical ocuk rumour that has evolved into 'fact', portraying the car being the worst vehicle in production on our roads.

but thats a whole different chapter thats already been covered a billion times on here.

but yes, more info required on both cars tbh.

Agreed. The difference really isn't a lot to most people, and since when has the mondeo interior been outstanding? I'd say they're both equally bland and tacky, like most cars made outside of germany.

Personally I'd go for the Astra, obviously assuming they're both of a similiar spec.
 
Just because it's a cheap car doesn't mean people don't buy them based on looks. To think so is ignorant.
Looks are a huge part of why people buy cars regardless of whether budget is £500 or £50000.

Fonzee I agree, it's a great looking car from the outside, but the interior is far worse than just dull imo lol. I'd be tempted by one myself if it wasn't for the interior :(
 
Some people? Probably. Most people? Maybe. But 'people', implying everyone? No. I couldn't care less what my car looks like, unless it's comical or ugly as sin. It's about as big a consideration as the lining of the door pocket
 
Some people? Probably. Most people? Maybe. But 'people', implying everyone? No. I couldn't care less what my car looks like, unless it's comical or ugly as sin. It's about as big a consideration as the lining of the door pocket

Did I say all people? No. Clearly not implying all people as fox is obviously someone who buys the best for budget regardless of whether the car is ugly or not.
 
I'd rather cut off parts of my body than own another Vauxhall.

Mondeo. All day everyday.

Heaven forbid anyone bought one of those horrenduous abominations!

[TW]Fox;17305143 said:
They both look like rental cars. You don't buy either for looks!

And of course the assesment of looks is something completely objective.

The Vauxhall hate on OcUK is pretty sad.

Sure, the Astra F wasn't the leader of its class, but the G was on par with the competition. And while it didn't have the rear independent suspension of the focus, it still had a decent chasys for the time and held its ground very well against the focus. Maybe you can only take a corner at 60mph in an astra instead of 63mph in the focus but really is that the end of the world? Overall they are both very good cars for the money, and it would be foolish to discredit any of them.

same goes for Vectra C, which was was also a big step up compared to the B, and again held its ground very well compared to the Mondeo. Again, handling wise it was not as good, but again the difference is tiny, some people would have you believe that it's worse than a 60's american car.


The H does not have the interior of a Golf, true. But the Mondeo ain't exactly stunning either. They are both cars with good value for money, have a test drive in both, and buy the one you like most, it's not like you're buying a 15 year old jag based on looks, which would have serious money pit potential.
 
Cristian said:
same goes for Vectra C, which was was also a big step up compared to the B...
In related news having a stroke is better than being shot in the face.

Can't say anything specific about the Astra, however the general build quality, tacky interior plastics (which for some reason are covered in a plastic resin stuff which peels off when you scrape it accidentally with a ring finger), retarded indicator stalks, SHOCKING ride quality and asthmatic engines of the Vectra are enough for me to dissuade anyone from spending any money on anything with a Vauxhall badge.
 
In related news having a stroke is better than being shot in the face.

Can't say anything specific about the Astra, however the general build quality, tacky interior plastics (which for some reason are covered in a plastic resin stuff which peels off when you scrape it accidentally with a ring finger), retarded indicator stalks, SHOCKING ride quality and asthmatic engines of the Vectra are enough for me to dissuade anyone from spending any money on anything with a Vauxhall badge.

The interior might not be the most exciting, I seriously don't know in what Vectra you've been but plastic that you can peel of with accidentally sounds a bit fictional to me. I've been in mistread taxi vectras with many miles on board and they did have indeed small scratches on the door handles and the like, but it is the same with the Mondeo.

Whatcar.com said:
the cabin is well laid out, roomy (fitting five adults is no problem) and shows some Audi-like quality. The driving position is excellent and the boot is a match for the Mondeo's.

Retarded indicator stalks? what do you mean by that?

Shocking ride quality? really? Any review on the internet will point out that it is no longer the case with the C (B wasn't too good, yes). An old 2.2 dti with many miles and shocks never changed might be guilty of this, but any properly maintained Vectra should be perfectly adequate.
Whatcar.com said:
The suspension will also shake off lumps and bumps competently, and its handling marks a real improvement on the older Vectra's.
Asthmatic engines?

Petrol 1.8 is equal to the mondeo's 125bhp which is indeed not particualry exciting, but neither is the Mondeo.
Next one up is the torquey 2.2 petrol which again is just as good if not a bit better than mondeo's 2.0. I hope I don't have to justify the 2.0 turbo or the 2.8s.

The older dti diesels are crappy, true. But they were only available for 2 years, since 2004 they are all 1.9 cdti's which in 120/150 bhp spec are on par or actually better than Mondeo's 2.0 116/130 bhp Tdci.

Again - I'm not saying that it is much better car than the Mondeo. They are both close in many aspects, the mondeo might handle a bit better and the Vectra might be a bit better suited for long motorway journeys, but the whole Vaxuhall hate is unjustified.
 
He means the indicator stalks that don't click into place.

A feature that might be annoying to someone who has never driven one, or driven one for five minutes, but a feature that isn't a problem for anyone that has one for any length of time.

My VXR had the same system - it was annoying for the first few hours only.
 
Driving the car always, yes you would get used to it. Swapping between cars it became even more annoying.
 
thanks for all the replys!
in the end i think im going to go for the astra even though the majority seem to say mondeo
though that could change when i test drive the mondeo on tuesday
will just have to see =/
 
not too keen on the styling on the focus to be honest... that and i often drive one for work
didnt think about golfs..ill have to have a look at them, thanks for the suggestion!
 
Astra.
I hate ford with a passion, known for how quickly they turn to rust and how stupid their keys are.
We currently have a Mk3 mondeo and I like it but I have to agree with the rust part, especially in regards to the doors. The problem is well known and if you haven't had a stamp in the service book to say ford have checked it then you're out of luck for getting it fixed under warranty.

The last Vauxhall we had to suffer rust problems was an F reg Mk2 astra and we've had plenty of Vauxhalls since then.
 
[TW]Fox;17305143 said:
They both look like rental cars. You don't buy either for looks!

Ok then the astra is a better looking rental car.... plenty of people will choose a 5dr hatchback over another because they prefer the looks.

I'm not saying he should choose the astra over a mondeo, I'd choose a mondeo as well but the astra does have some advantages.
 
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