Koran burning in reaction to 9/11

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To me, that statement just reflects a lack of understanding of many of the world's belief systems. Not all of them demand blind obedience to a jealous god, nor encourage the population to remain in the dark ages. Buddhism for example has a rich canon of psychological texts that is as relevant today (and indeed used by some professionals) as it was 2,500 years ago. You can't tar the entirety of man's belief systems with the same brush.

To be fair Buddism is a bit of an exception and it was unfair of me to tar them all with the same brush. How many other 'mainstream' religions can you say this about though?
 
Its a book! printed by the millions. Why should it bother anyone?
if he has the money to waste burning books fair play. He''s obviously better off than me!
 
What for?
There are no laws being broken, he is using his first amendment rights.
I can't what the fuss is all about.

For his own protection or what's that term for taking action before someone does something that will incite others? He's trolling on a worldwide scale that will no doubt have a negative effect on many peoples lives, he's a moron.
If he hasn't broken or about to break any law it doesn't matter, it's America, they'll just make something up :).
 
OK, when does the world get upset to this scale when bibles are burnt? Actually we don't even hear about the bibles being burnt, even though it happens.

When does the world get upset when in muslim countries, churces are not allowed to be built?

When does the world get upset when crosses are burned and urinated on ? Answer to that is we don't.. Actually we for the most part couldn't give a %^%.. When was the last time you heard of a Christian riot?

Yet one case of a Qu'ran going up in smoke and there's international uproar.. Come Sunday out come the riots and burning of churches..

This just proves that muslims (for the most part) are all a little touchy on such matters when it goes on in their back gardens all day long..Another word for it is hypocriptes! Christians are generally tolerable & muslims are generally not simple as that. The politicians are cowards for not standing up and saying this, once again giving into fear of retalitation.. While I agree that throwing fuel on the fire doesn't make it any better, this guy 'redneck' or whatever you want to call him, is just showing the world that Islam is all about anger and hate, and hats off to the fella, he's getting his point across pretty well !
 
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Agreed!

Yet another example of everyone having to bend over backwards to appease Islam... Christ, even the US president now has to get involved... Why? Because lots of peaceful/tolerant Muslims are threatening to not be peaceful/tolerant...



For his own protection or what's that term for taking action before someone does something that will incite others? He's trolling on a worldwide scale that will no doubt have a negative effect on many peoples lives, he's a moron.

Yes, the action is itself is utterly daft, but the outcome - once again - is seemingly basically everyone in the world having to run around in circles trying to keep Islam from throwing a tantrum?

There's some moronic behaviour with this situation, but I'd suggest the majority of it is in Islamic response (again).
 
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OK, when does the world get upset to this scale when bibles are burnt? Actually we don't even hear about the bibles being burnt, even though it happens.

if we didn't get to hear about this then who would be upset ?.....nobody.
blame the media for stirring things up :p
 
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Agreed!

Yet another example of everyone having to bend over backwards to appease Islam... Christ, even the US president now has to get involved... Why? Because lots of peaceful/tolerant Muslims are threatening to not be peaceful/tolerant...





Yes, the action is itself is utterly daft, but the outcome - once again - is seemingly basically everyone in the world having to run around in circle trying to keep a Islam from throwing a tantrum?

i see you're carrying on from where i last saw you :p
 
Because lots of peaceful/tolerant Muslims are threatening to not be peaceful/tolerant...

Nice of them to show what followers of their religion, oops, I mean, death cult are actually like :p

Peaceful and tolerant are two words that are the complete opposite to what the koran teaches anyway.

In the name of tolerance, we should be able to feel free to burn the koran after Muslims already burnt the Satanic Verses, and tried to have the author killed.
 
we should be able to feel free to burn the koran after Muslims already burnt the Satanic Verses, and tried to have the author killed.

you are, nothing is really stopping you. im sure the muslims who print the quran will be loving you for it.
 
Poverty, Education, access to Medical care and so on. People of whatever faith or creed who are comfortable, have food, money, education and employment do not become terrorists, or indeed feel the need to support those individuals who would use their beliefs for their own political end.

No thats not strictly true you only have to look at the number of foreign combatants who've been captured in Iraq and Afganistan to know the religious draw of Islam for some is stronger than the free health care they get in the UK. Make no mistake terrorism is not about poverty or lack of education, when was the last time a starving African attacked another nation with a bomb?
 
i see you're carrying on from where i last saw you :p

Speaking common sense then?

Let's get this matter straight:-
1) Half a dozen idiots burning a couple of dozen books in some quiet little suburb of the US.
2) Seemingly thousands of Islamic individuals, and indeed national heads, running around having a hissy fit about (1) And the concern of lives being lost over (1).

If we put (1) and (2) on our 'moronic scales', one side is clearly a lot heavier IMHO...


Now, imagine if (1) had just been completely ignored by Islam... As you'd expect tolerant sensible religious folks to be able to do... Wouldn't that have made more sense?
 
On the contrary, Religion lends itself to Human Nature extremely well, and therein lie the problem.

Only our need to know that when we die we're taken care of the whole higher power being incharge to the point where they can in some cases guide our actions to the point where we can negate responsibility for them. Religion in essence is designed to direct and control, Christianity has always had the Pope as its leader, Islam however is far more fractured and splintered in that respect with no one recognised leader, therein perhaps lies the problem which has led us to this Koran burning eventuality ;)
 
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Nice of them to show what followers of their religion, oops, I mean, death cult are actually like :p

Peaceful and tolerant are two words that are the complete opposite to what the koran teaches anyway.

In the name of tolerance, we should be able to feel free to burn the koran after Muslims already burnt the Satanic Verses, and tried to have the author killed.

Who can blame you bhavv from making such statements as I believe you come from hindu background. Maybe we should also have a thread on hindu antagonism towards islam.
 
Who can blame you bhavv from making such statements as I believe you come from hindu background. Maybe we should also have a thread on hindu antagonism towards islam.

Hinduism has no influence against my opposition to all religions INCLUDING Hinduism.
 
Read your translation and now read mine. Yes some are different, but why pick out the bad bits only? It's not random, there's more to it. If you read all of the translations, it's balanced.

EDIT: Zynoist Jews killing the innocent Philistines (Palestinians), just because they won't leave Jerusalem were Masjid Al-Aqsa is. But no-one calls them terrorists? I think people are so against Islam because they're scared. They're scared that it is the right religion. No-one mentions other terrorists groups, or relates any other religions to them. Look at the Tamil Tigers, they're mostly hindu. IRA are probably made up of Christians, prositents or Catholics?

EDIT 2: Unbelievers further on in the Qur'an also result to Muslims who are Hypocrites. They say they don't do things against Islam, but then do them. Like I said, it's balanced.

To Balance out more.

This is the biggest lot of turd I have ever had the misfortune to read.

Islam is a disease, not a religion. Its an affliction that the weak and vulnerable, severely under-endowed men use an an excuse for treating people and others like dirt.

No good can ever come of Islam, its a shambolic concoction of baseless vile spewings.

I think that the hardline islamics should be sectioned, as they are so far gone they are dangerous to anyone around them.

A world without Islam would be a better world.
 
Speaking common sense then?

Let's get this matter straight:-
1) Half a dozen idiots burning a couple of dozen books in some quiet little suburb of the US.
2) Seemingly thousands of Islamic individuals, and indeed national heads, running around having a hissy fit about (1) And the concern of lives being lost over (1).

If we put (1) and (2) on our 'moronic scales', one side is clearly a lot heavier IMHO...


Now, imagine if (1) had just been completely ignored by Islam... As you'd expect tolerant religious folks to be able to do... Wouldn't that have made more sense?

so what do you expect obama to do ? ignore it knowing American soldiers will be more at risk because of this 1 idiot.

ignored by islam ???? islam is not a person, even if you meant muslims it wouldn't make sense as this isn't the borg.
they are individuals, some will get offended and others will think who cares.
some extremists will use it as a tool to brainwash others into doing terrorist attacks......but hey who cares for lives lost aslong as the hate towards muslims grows.
 
Christians are generally tolerable & muslims are generally not simple as that.
No, it's not. There are plenty of intolerant Christians and plenty of tolerant Muslims. And it's not like there aren't acts of Christian extremism, like the bombing of abortion clinics and the head of the Catholic church telling HIV ridden Africa that condoms aren't the way to deal with the disease:

BBC News said:
Pope Benedict said on the eve of his trip that he wanted to wrap his arms around the entire continent, with "its painful wounds, its enormous potential and hopes".

HIV/Aids was, he argued, "a tragedy that cannot be overcome by money alone, that cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which can even increase the problem".

The solution lay, he said, in a "spiritual and human awakening" and "friendship for those who suffer".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7947460.stm




At the moment we're on the receiving end of Islamic extremism. Any event that could anger Muslims, extremists or otherwise, is going to attract attention from the media and concerns from security agencies. Most of the people you'll see and hear showing anger over this will not resort to acts of violence.
 
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so what do you expect obama to do ? ignore it knowing American soldiers will be more at risk because of this 1 idiot.

ignored by islam ???? islam is not a person, even if you meant muslims it wouldn't make sense as this isn't the borg.
they are individuals, some will get offended and others will think who cares.
some extremists will use it as a tool to brainwash others into doing terrorist attacks......but hey who cares for lives lost aslong as the hate towards muslims grows.

I expect people to realise the real finger of blame is not this "1 idiot" but the ?,???,??? people who can't ignore this "1 idiot".

Basically, I expect people to realise, once again, people, groups and indeed governments once again have to walk around on egg shells because of Islam and the cultures that seem to embrace it.

I expect people to realise that Islam and the cultures that embrace it are the real issue here, again.
 
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