Which religious people do towards Atheists on a far far larger scale anyway.
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Which religious people do towards Atheists on a far far larger scale anyway.
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I think you have got it right. If you go back to early history of Islam you will realise that it started in arabia which is modern day saudi arabia. When Islam was first being preached by Prophet Muhammed, the arabian society at that time was highly backward, feudalistic, warring with no sense of social justice. Whereas the neighbouring states the persian empire and byzantine empire were highly developed during that era.
The thing is that saudi arabia throughout the history has mainly remained insular from foreign invasions and thus it has not benefitted from educational inquiry and philosophical approach to life which those invasions brought to other parts of the world.
Even as late as 1970s my uncle tells me that saudi arabia didn't have modern infrastructure and telephone services. So you can imagine the state of those people.
However islam in other parts of the world such as baghdad had huge stabilising influence and you had great scholars, poet, philosophers etc making various contributions to science, literature, arts, philosophy etc.
The problem is most of those people who follow highly conservative approach to islam tend to follow saudi mentality and it's riggidness.
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I know, right? Thank God (no, wait) that this doesn't happen in atheist countries. I mean you'd never catch the Communist Chinese executing people for made up "crimes" or torturing people for being different, with all that brutal regime stuff that happens "only" in Muslim extremist countries, right?
Oh. Wait.
so why do it ?
I know, right? Thank God (no, wait) that this doesn't happen in atheist countries. I mean you'd never catch the Communist Chinese executing people for made up "crimes" or torturing people for being different, with all that brutal regime stuff that happens "only" in Muslim extremist countries, right?
Oh. Wait.
Thats due to Communism not Atheism, its not my fault if you cant tell the difference. However, the Chinese dont carry out atrocities outside of their borders on such a scale as Islam does.
Freedom of expression is why. If I meet a Muslim in real life, I dont have to say anything other than 'I am an Atheist' to get attacked. And yes, that has happened enough times.
no... that is what allows you to.
Oh the ironing. Or maybe a 'woosh' is more in order.
EDIT: I've had a think and my original reply didn't do you justice. I should have added that your twisted logic is eye watering, and your ignorance is absolutely scarily astounding. Especially given you are so anti-religion on just those grounds. Go and have a read up on the Cultural Revolution, and how Chairman Mao decided that religion was a backwards thing. So began years of torture, killing and all manner of nastiness in the name of 'progress'. Communist violence and atheism were not mutually exclusive. As for not perpetuating their violence outside of their borders... ask a Tibetan refugee what they think of that.
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LOL funny bhavv he doesnt even have a clue about what he posts...id be here all night if i decided to pull up quotes from here and from past threads where hes attacked someones beliefs...usually muslim/islam is the one he attacks the most.
Think he should think before making such claims lol.
Maybe thats because that this happens to be the most discussed religion around here.
Actually I were specifically meaning to refer to 'physical attacks' when I said that. I dont ever consider words to be 'attacks'.
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but then that wouldn't be bhaav...
please walk down the street and do this whilst recording it.........i know its lies but would be hilarious if you could prove it to be true
Or maybe you have an individual problem with Muslims, and when you get the chance you try as much as you can to get a bad word in about them.
please walk down the street and do this whilst recording it.........i know its lies but would be hilarious if you could prove it to be true
He'll pay his friend to do it!
It's the same as the guy above who replied to me that religion is basically incompatible with science and that religion just howls "prove God doesn't exist then" in return. There's a great deal written about this, and it's a fascinating topic. Especially when you consider that most of it was written over 2,000 years ago and is pretty much verbatim in line with current quantum theory. EDIT: Here's the quote:
A lot of people in this thread seem to be confusing "religion" with Abrahamic belief systems. Believe it or not, there are other faiths, philosophies and beliefs out there.
I didn't state ALL religious ideas are moot. My reference and use of the term religion was in relation to Creationism. Hence my point on the stereotypical Christian response of Genesis not being taken literately and your reply of God can't be proven to not exist. I don't know much about Buddhism cosmology teachings tbh is it actually based upon Quatum Mechanics though as this is just atomic and sub atomic physics. I'm guessing the terminology you are using you are referring to atoms and electrons?
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WHOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHH
No need to thank me, pleasure was all mine
Tha... oh. OK.
I have to say, bhavv, you've single-handedly made me re-evaluate the Muslim position on this. Put it this way, I'd much rather go for a meal with Vita and/or Spawn and discuss how/why I may or may not be an infidel, than spend an hour in a pub with you. I'd be too scared of the negative effect you'd have on my IQ lol
Please see my post edit above regarding Communism, atheism and the Cultural Revolution in relation to barbaric regimes and institutional violence. I'm looking forward to your reply.
please walk down the street and do this whilst recording it.........i know its lies but would be hilarious if you could prove it to be true
What makes you think its lies? Ive had plenty of Muslims ask me if I believe in god, and after replying 'No I am an Atheist' had nothing but, as you defined earlier, verbal attacks.
please walk down the street and do this whilst recording it.........i know its lies but would be hilarious if you could prove it to be true
PMSL for real lol...hilarious absolutely hilarious.
He seems to have one doesnt he.
It's not he seems, he does. Now this is why I said way earlier in the thread about people being "scared" about Islam.
I was speaking about people like bhavv, those who choose to go with the wrong, even when the right is in front of them. Fair enough an opinion is an opinion, but that does not mean you have to ignore the facts which are correct, to those which are not.
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