Koran burning in reaction to 9/11

[Vonhelmet]

You dont even know what the word faith means.

Of course I don't, all you've given me are definitions of religion.

I have absolutely no faith that God doesnt exist, I know so from a complete lack of evidence,

That's not how science works. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Otherwise you're saying that things wouldn't have existed until we observed them, and that things that are unobservable don't exist.

and Science can actually theoretically show with very strong evidence that it is impossible for such a thing as a 'God' to exist (any basic understanding of space, vacuum, energy, and molecular structure would easilly allow one to conclude this).

Well, you'll be able to explain it then, seeing as it's so basic. Go ahead.

Also, nothing is Science supports the idea that 'Just because we dont know something, then God must have done it'.

Indeed, which is why I haven't made such a claim.

C- Must try harder

 

[Vita]

Really not my fault that you get crazy baseless assumptions.

Bhavv is Bradford seriously that bad to you?

 

[bhavv]

You talk as though the God in question couldn't manipulate those atmospheric conditions.

Absolutely impossible when we know EXACTLY how theose conditions already occur.

Once we know how things actually happen, clever people no longer use the 'God must have done it' rule.

Of course I don't, all you've given me are definitions

They were the religious definitions of Faith, duh.

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=faith

 

[Yas786]

That's rich coming from you.

Excuse me??...

Yes he too scared or chicken to actually carry it out...he hasnt got the balls...if he does and posts it online then ill take my words back but until he does...thats what he is, talks big but no substance to him.

 

[Vita]

Absolutely impossible when we know EXACTLY how theose conditions already occur.

Once we know how things actually happen, clever people no longer use the 'God must have done it' rule.

But for you know how these condition occur. There must have been someone to explain, and where did they get the knowledge from?

I mean, did they just think one day "Oh yeah it floods because of Atmospheric Pressure".

 

[SlugForAButt]

You are saying that these death inflicting disasters are a warning?

 

[Amnesia]

Really not my fault that you get crazy baseless assumptions.

bah read the edit(yup i was slow)...i added some extra so you can understand where i'm coming from

 

[Vonhelmet]

Absolutely impossible when we know EXACTLY how theose conditions already occur.

Not impossible. We know how those things occur, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't have been an initial move from God to prompt them to occur in that way. Weather systems are deeply chaotic, and have no "cause" as such, so it would be trivial for any hypothetical God to introduce a cause of his own to bend things one way or another.

Let's say we find an apple on the floor under a tree. Did it fall from the tree, or did someone pull it off and place it on the floor?

Once we know how things actually happen, clever people no longer use the 'God must have done it' rule.

And I wasn't.

 

[bhavv]

Excuse me??...

Yes he too scared or chicken to actually carry it out...he hasnt got the balls...if he does and posts it online then ill take my words back but until he does...thats what he is, talks big but no substance to him.

So let me get this right, you actually want me to burn the Koran just to prove a point to you? Some Muslim you are

 

[Castiel]

Absolutely impossible when we know EXACTLY how theose conditions already occur.

Once we know how things actually happen, clever people no longer use the 'God must have done it' rule.



They were the religious definitions of Faith, duh.

Actually we don't. Climatology is a very proxy driven science, we currently do not understand many of the mechanisms regarding or climate or local weather patterns.

I don't believe God is responsible either, but as with a lot of what you say, you are not entirely accurate.

 

[Yas786]

Really not my fault that you get crazy baseless assumptions.

Hardly lol...looking at your posting history especially compared to when the topic is islam/muslims...its quite clear to see that you are what you are.

 

[Vita]

You are saying that these death inflicting disasters are a warning?

Well the signs of Judgement nearing are, more frequent flooding/Volcanoes erupting/Earthquakes. And these were what, told 1431 years ago?

 

[bhavv]

Not impossible. We know how those things occur, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't have been an initial move from God to prompt them to occur in that way. Weather systems are deeply chaotic, and have no "cause" as such, so it would be trivial for any hypothetical God to introduce a cause of his own to bend things one way or another.

Let's say we find an apple on the floor under a tree. Did it fall from the tree, or did someone pull it off and place it on the floor?



And I wasn't.

Right. Everything that you talk about is Philosophy, not Science.

Its kind of typical for people with strong beliefs to think that Philosophy = Science. It doesnt, and you are not speaking in any kind of scientific sense.

 

[Yas786]

So let me get this right, you actually want me to burn the Koran just to prove a point to you? Some Muslim you are

Well yes seeing as you made the comment about burning one...it doesnt bother me either way if you do or you dont but if you say your going to do something then at least grow some balls and actually do it.

Yes i know im awesome

 

[Vonhelmet]

They were the religious definitions of Faith, duh.

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=faith

Huh? No they're not. I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "religious definition of faith". What you've given are entries in a large "lexical database" of words, which isn't quite a dictionary as such, but rather some sort of semantic map of language, judging by the homepage of that particular search that you've used.

 

[bhavv]

Hardly lol...looking at your posting history especially compared to when the topic is islam/muslims...its quite clear to see that you are what you are.

No really, Im not trying to spread any hate towards Islam. I dont need to at all.

Islam spreads hate towards itself just fine, no need to accuse the messenger of any such news.

 

[Angleboy]

"They" Burn bibles, flags etc etc and prance around with signs saying "BEHEAD THE UNBELIVERS" so i really fail to see why the muslims are up in arms about some people doing likewise.

If you cant take it dont dish out.

 

[Vonhelmet]

Right. Everything that you talk about is Philosophy, not Science.

Please explain where I am talking about philosophy, rather than science.

Its kind of typical for people with strong beliefs to think that Philosophy = Science. It doesnt, and you are not speaking in any kind of scientific sense.

It's kind of typical for people with no understanding of philosophy, science or religion to make absurd claims like the above.

 

[Vita]

No really, Im not trying to spread any hate towards Islam. I dont need to at all.

Islam spreads hate towards itself just fine, no need to accuse the messenger of any such news.

LOL. That post just contradicts it's self. bhavv man you're losing your touch.

 

[Castiel]

No really, Im not trying to spread any hate towards Islam. I dont need to at all.

Islam spreads hate towards itself just fine, no need to accuse the messenger of any such news.

Then why do most of your posts do just that.