Employees Rights - Death of a Colleague

lol. There's no law to force corporations to give leave to their employees so they could go to a friends funeral. Do you know how many "funerals" people would go to if this was true? Seriously, think about it, Yeah it's bad I get it. Try and get your local MP to present the, "Friends Funeral Act 2010" at their next parliament meeting.

Certainly they aren't going to close the shop or give their employees time off to cope because someone they worked with did died. People can't be so sensitive and yes it sucks but unfortunately, the well being of the company, it's profits and the economy of the country matters the most.

If people care about this that much, then call in sick, you all say you had flu, what's the problem? If you got the balls to ask for time off because someone that wasn't related to you in 1st degree died then just call in sick. What do you think they can do? Nothing.

You think your company is fked up? North Sea oil companies don't want to dig out the dead bodies of their workers because it costs too much money, think how their family and friends feel.


PS: I'm drunk
pps: /omnislash
 
Well i am sure that if she went to the doctors and got a sick note explaining she was berieved over the death of a friend then they would have no choice. Going to thier funeral would be part of the healing process. They would then have to get another store manager to fill in for a couple of hours. They would not be able to do anything about it. ;)

iirc you can also have unpaid leave which the store cannot refuse given notice of this.
 
franco_22 said:
lol. There's no law to force corporations to give leave to their employees so they could go to a friends funeral. Do you know how many "funerals" people would go to if this was true? Seriously, think about it, Yeah it's bad I get it. Try and get your local MP to present the, "Friends Funeral Act 2010" at their next parliament meeting.

Certainly they aren't going to close the shop or give their employees time off to cope because someone they worked with did died. People can't be so sensitive and yes it sucks but unfortunately, the well being of the company, it's profits and the economy of the country matters the most.
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Basically what he says.
I worked at a factory for 27 years that must have had at least 6000 workers in that time.
Around 11 committed suicide and we had 100s of deaths which amounted to lots of funerals to attend.
30 people going to a funeral for 2 hours out of a maximum of 2500 workers would be sustainable but it was always comedy gold when workers turned up who were obviously bobbing off work and didn't get on with the deceased.
A small workforce all leaving for a funeral for a whole day (2 hours there, 2 hours back, 2 hours funeral + gossip) could have a major impact on the business.
 
dmpoole said:
Basically what he says.
I worked at a factory for 27 years that must have had at least 6000 workers in that time.
Around 11 committed suicide and we had 100s of deaths which amounted to lots of funerals to attend.
30 people going to a funeral for 2 hours out of a maximum of 2500 workers would be sustainable but it was always comedy gold when workers turned up who were obviously bobbing off work and didn't get on with the deceased.
A small workforce all leaving for a funeral for a whole day (2 hours there, 2 hours back, 2 hours funeral + gossip) could have a major impact on the business.
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However in a small shop, it's a much closer environment and you'll no doubt end up more friends than colleagues over time.

A factory is different, I worked in a supermarket (large store with 100+ staff) and only managed to be real friends with 3 or 4, probably less than if the store had only had 15 employees.

As the OP explained, the store manager made the discovery - so they weren't just people that turned up and worked together for 8 or so hours of the day.

I'd just go get a doctors note, especially if I was the manager. I know all people are different, but i'd need some personal time to clear my head after finding a colleague/friend dead in their home.
 
Yeah and then the store manager won't have her contract renewed. Honestly, don't screw with a company like that, they sound like jerks and they will replace you.

The best advice I can give you is suck it up and find a better job/better company to work for, which right now, most people don't have a lot of choice so you ought to count yourself lucky you're employed.
 
franco_22 said:
Yeah and then the store manager won't have her contract renewed. Honestly, don't screw with a company like that, they sound like jerks and they will replace you.

The best advice I can give you is suck it up and find a better job/better company to work for, which right now, most people don't have a lot of choice so you ought to count yourself lucky you're employed.
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I think it's a given that the employees ought to be finding a new employer. She discovers and friend and workmate dead and is expected to open the store the next day? Are you ******** me?

There's no way in hell I'd put up with that; and in what is obviously a smaller workplace environment it doesn't seem to be a case of anyone trying to take the ****.

Tell them to get new employment, and shop the situation to the press. Bury them (no pun intended).
 
Just take it straight to the newspaper. It will be out next day with some luck and they will be boned so badly that they will be forced to give you all leave for fear of loosing all reputation. They would also not be allowed to fire you I don't think. At least if they did that would look even worse.
 
8igdave said:
Just take it straight to the newspaper. It will be out next day with some luck and they will be boned so badly that they will be forced to give you all leave for fear of loosing all reputation. They would also not be allowed to fire you I don't think. At least if they did that would look even worse.
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So, they don't go to work and damage the companies reputation? Those are both sackable offences. I think if they did that, they should resign as in no doubt a terrible working environment would ensue.
 
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Tricky one i guess,

If your girlfreind is gonna ring in sick she needs everybody else to do it too, not much the company can & will do to 15 people, if she does it on her own, she is screwed.

Any company hates unity in its workforce thats why they dispise Unions.

If it was me, i'd try the doctors first not much they can do if she has a doctors note, or make an appointment at the funeral time with the doctors and don't go.......can't argue with that.
 
8igdave said:
Just take it straight to the newspaper. It will be out next day with some luck and they will be boned so badly that they will be forced to give you all leave for fear of loosing all reputation. They would also not be allowed to fire you I don't think. At least if they did that would look even worse.
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What makes you think for one minute that a newspaper would be interested in this? This sort of thing happens all the time, it's not news, not even for a local rag.
 
What an unfortunate situation, a few of my colleagues died over the years and the company gave everyone the opportunity to attend their funerals, I only went to one and most of the workforce also went, the deceased was a well respected friend to many and long serving employee who suffered greatly for many months before finally passing, such a sad occasion. I think it would have been awful if they didn't allow us to go.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I feel a strange case of some 24 hr stomach bugs in the air. Highly contagious so I hear.
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+1

i know nothing said:
What makes you think for one minute that a newspaper would be interested in this? This sort of thing happens all the time, it's not news, not even for a local rag.
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I've worked at a local newspaper. I think they would be intrested. I don't think it will help much though.
 
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I'd hope they'd be allowed to take it as short-term annual leave. That's what I did for my father-in-law's funeral.

My initial reaction was similar to the above (see if a local newspaper is interested), although obviously you'd want to be careful where the story came from i.e. make sure they aren't directly quoting members of staff who could get into hot water over it etc.
 
i know nothing said:
What makes you think for one minute that a newspaper would be interested in this? This sort of thing happens all the time, it's not news, not even for a local rag.
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Are you joking? I've seen less interesting stories in national papers on a quiet news day, yet alone a local rag! Besides, I think even the thought that it might be in a paper would be motivation enough for the company in question.
 
I personally think its a bit different if its a big company with lots of workers who arnt so close knit as say a shop would be.. like its been said before with a handfull of workers you either end up despising each other or end up as friends.

If the latter then the boss/manager has a heart over money situation.. let people go to the funeral of a close colleague/friend or look after the pennies in the business so its a moral decision really. you would like to think that this is true but i can imagine closing a small shop for a day could really hurt its profits!
 
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