Put a deposit down, if it passes MOT fine it's mine

Axeboy · 12 Sep 2010 at 12:50

Obviously abused? I just dont see how you can say that... new clutch... then whats wrong?

My point is you are assuming it has been abused and will die in no time.

Car was 1000 clutch will be 250ish, new seat say 100... So, 1350 for an old Galant v6.. whats wrong with that?

Anyway, like I said, instead of pummeling the man, get some examples of what he should have bought. Thats the normal way.

Janesy B · 12 Sep 2010 at 13:06

Hopefully it'll fail its MOT and the OP will be spared ownership of a total shed.

Axeboy · 12 Sep 2010 at 13:16

what would you buy from NL instead?

mjt · 12 Sep 2010 at 13:21

I went to NL and bought myself a Volvo S90.
Even these, which are probably the best value for money cars at this end of the market over here, start at €2,000 for a 960, which is over double what the OP paid.

Even with the issues that need fixing, it's a bargain. Seriously, you can't buy anything that works properly (that isn't ****) for a grand over here.
A friend paid over a grand for a Pug 205!

Axeboy · 12 Sep 2010 at 13:22

Nice to hear some real facts/info mjt

mjt · 12 Sep 2010 at 13:25

Snowdog even posted a screenshot on the first page that showed the prices!

I can see why people think it's a shed. In its current state, it probably is.
But fix the seat, clutch and rust and it'll be fine.

The reason the dealer didn't fix it and sell it for higher is because he's Dutch (no offence).
The Dutch have to be the most miserly people known to man. Short arms, long pockets..

Janesy B · 12 Sep 2010 at 13:27

Axeboy said:
what would you buy from NL instead?

I would have either utilized more of my budget to buy something that isn't tatty, failing that, keep my mechanically sound car and wait till I could afford a good example.

snowdog · 12 Sep 2010 at 14:32

Captain_Slick said:
Nope. Not at all. It may technically be one, but I'm betting they both drive like washing mashines on wheels, except ones got a slightly nicer interior.

What ? That is quite frankly a ridiculous assumption. I drive both new and old cars ( or well vans, they're from 2001 to 2010 ) vans at work and there is little to no difference in the way they drive. All of our personal cars ( ranging from 1993 to 2002) are still far nicer to drive than the Vans at work...

What the hell? It's not like Fox is the only person who is telling you that you should not have bought this car?

No but I question his opinions most, he's nearly the opposite of me trying to convince me I am the one who is wrong, in pretty much any situation.

Why on earth do you keep on going on and on about "speed" and traffic light GPs when you've just bought a car that cracks 0-60 in a WHOLE 8 seconds?

Because imo that is fast, and it is a nice upgrade from what I have atm ?

If I want faster for my budget I either have to drop requirements ( and go for scooby or similar) or significantly increase my budget, I can't be arsed with both. I'm losing nothing at all over the Volvo but gaining comfort and speed.

This is VERY rarely the case on a 10+ year old used car.

Errr, again, a wild assumption.

Quite frankly, it sounds like some of you guys have ZERO experience at all with buying older cars. And are avoiding them purely for the fact that they're, well old. For us ( as in my family), the habit is to buy cars 10-20 years old, buying a younger one was only a one time exception, you are all acting as if all old cars are money pits, whereas looking at all our current and previous cars, they definitely aren't...

Captain slick also seems to assume a new car is always better than an old car. I'd rather drive my washing machine ( :rolleyes:

) either way than a brand new Aygo or Cuore or Matiz thanks.

Jonny ///M · 12 Sep 2010 at 14:54

You're missing the point. Old cars are fine if you get a good one and it's been looked after by an enthusiast from a forum or something.

You've done what my mate always says and buys the cheapest of a certain car and are trying to justify it by saying the repairs won't amount to the same price of the 'not ****ed' cars.

Why not just use your car purchase price + budget for repair to buy something that has already been fixed,doesn't have a ****ed seat and hasn't towed some weirdos house around.

InvaderGIR · 12 Sep 2010 at 14:55

mjt said:
A friend paid over a grand for a Pug 205!

And you'll pay over a grand for one over here, not really comparable is it.

DM · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:01

This is another of those threads that has reached the smile nod and wave point, if hes happy its all good.

DM · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:02

MrLOL said:
i do so love a good snowdog thread.

You have got an endless supply of those apt pictures havent you

snowdog · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:07

Jonny ///M said:
You're missing the point. Old cars are fine if you get a good one and it's been looked after by an enthusiast from a forum or something.

That is nonsense from my experience. I mean what you say is often true but the opposite is not always true at all.

You've done what my mate always says and buys the cheapest of a certain car and are trying to justify it by saying the repairs won't amount to the same price of the 'not ****ed' cars.

Which is a gamble but you can't go disprove it this early, I see your point but you are viewing it in the most negative way, which from my experience, is completely unnecessary.

Why not just use your car purchase price + budget for repair to buy something that has already been fixed,

Because that is GUARANTEED to cost more whereas this is a gamble that may turn out well, just because a dealer or private person can't be arsed doesn't mean it's a bad buy. An example is The Corolla , we bought it for 1400€ (market price was 2200 at that time, it had a big dent in the door, spent 100 ish on a used door in the same color at toyota parts), drove it for 5 years ( 250k km) and spent relatively bugger all on it, sold it for 1500€ ( with 450k on the clock yes, and before anyone gets confused, we bought another one now for going around town, exact same model and age just half the mileage, and it's fine so far too) for export...

Doesn't have a ****ed seat and hasn't towed some weirdos house around.

I think you also missed the fact that a towbar doesn't mean a car is towing something around 24/7, aside from my Volvo, all our cars and at least our 5 previous cars, have had a towbar, it meant in our case than in 10 years, we pulled a caravan for 50 miles for a friend once... Most medium family sized cars have a towbar.

mjt · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:11

InvaderGIR said:
And you'll pay over a grand for one over here, not really comparable is it.

It wasn't a GTi.

InvaderGIR · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:14

mjt said:
It wasn't a GTi.

In that case...why'd he spend some much on a piece of rubbish, at that price even the Mitsu and your Volvo are better.

DM · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:18

Most medium cars in England dont have tow bars and when i see one that has i dont buy it.

I dont care if a fiesta has a tow bar because you know that hasnt done any heavy towing.

How you cant equate your slipping clutch and the tow bar = used for towing is beyond me.

snowdog · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:24

InvaderGIR said:
In that case...why'd he spend some much on a piece of rubbish, at that price even the Mitsu and your Volvo are better.

Various reasons why people buy them:

Tax. ( weight based in the NL, power based in BE wasn't it?)
Insurance ( a 1.6 saxo VTS is twice as cheap to insure for me as a 2.0 V40)
Image ( omg old mans car, why a station car you don't have a family, such a large car means you have got something to compensate, aargh ugly color ugly shape looks old blah blah blah).
Only wants A to B dry n well ( I don't need more speed comfort, luxuries)

I have the most different types of mates imagianable all thinking different about cars.
One Drives a pug 105 or 106 or whatever he bought for 1100 with missing trim parts and basically chills in it with his group of closest mates on a parking lot 12 hours a day drinking beer smoking weed.
One was lucky to get in to a good business and earns a lot for his age and is saving for a 20k BMW 760i as his first car ( currently drives an old 1992 5 series of his mum) which he will buy within a couple months as he's halfway with the money.
One gives bugger all about driving but thinks it's handy to have a car and plans on buying the cheapest car he can find.
One loves driving ( currently drives his parents diesel zafira and 60hp seat ibiza) and says he's in love with an E30 bmw and is buying a E30 320i within the next 3 months.

Different people different thoughts... By the opinion of OcUK, they're all idiots.

How you cant equate your slipping clutch and the tow bar = used for towing is beyond me.

I can equate it, but I'm not immediately assuming it, and even if I was I'm not scared of that thought.

DM · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:29

Oh well as long as you are happy then, enjoy

InvaderGIR · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:30

snowdog said:
Various reasons why people buy them:

First thing. I wasn't talking to you now was I.

snowdog said:
Insurance ( a 1.6 saxo VTS is twice as cheap to insure for me as a 2.0 V40)
Image ( omg old mans car, why a station car you don't have a family, such a large car means you have got something to compensate, aargh ugly color ugly shape looks old blah blah blah).
Only wants A to B dry n well ( I don't need more speed comfort, luxuries)

You realise that a 205 and a Saxo are two different aged cars so don't compare them like that, and your insurance has nothing to do with mjt's friend's insurance...and the rest of what you've said...that has nothing to do with mjt's friend, don't turn something that has nothing to do with you to about you. :rolleyes:

snowdog said:
I have the most different types of mates imagianable all thinking different about cars.
One Drives a pug 105 or 106 or whatever he bought for 1100 with missing trim parts and basically chills in it with his group of closest mates on a parking lot 12 hours a day drinking beer smoking weed.
One was lucky to get in to a good business and earns a lot for his age and is saving for a 20k BMW 760i as his first car ( currently drives an old 1992 5 series of his mum) which he will buy within a couple months as he's halfway with the money.
One gives bugger all about driving but thinks it's handy to have a car and plans on buying the cheapest car he can find.
One loves driving and says he's in love with an E30 bmw and is buying a E30 320i within the next 3 months.

Different people different thoughts... By the opinion of OcUK, they're all idiots.

WTF? Get a clue. :rolleyes:

snowdog · 12 Sep 2010 at 15:35

InvaderGIR said:
You realise that a 205 and a Saxo are two different aged cars so don't compare them like that, and your insurance has nothing to do with mjt's friend's insurance...and the rest of what you've said...that has nothing to do with mjt's friend, don't turn something that has nothing to do with you to about you.

The same image reasons apply to most youngsters...

You realise that a 205 and a Saxo are two different aged cars so don't compare them like that, and your insurance has nothing to do with mjt's friend's insurance...and the rest of what you've said...that has nothing to do with mjt's friend, don't turn something that has nothing to do with you to about you.

And the tax definitely does... In Belgium the tax is based on the power of a car.