Put a deposit down, if it passes MOT fine it's mine

And mjt isn't young and hasn't said that is friend is young, so your point falls flat on it's face.

Fair enough, a 2.5 liter Mitsu or his Volvo is still FAR more to tax in belgium than a normal model 205.

A 1.4 205 would for example be : 203,81€ to tax, a 2.5 liter car would be 532,36€. A 4 liter car 1.978,67€...


They are being put into groups by engine size, the larger sizes have extreme taxes...
 
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In that case...why'd he spend some much on a piece of rubbish, at that price even the Mitsu and your Volvo are better. :p
She wanted something small and cheap. I was illustrating the point here how expensive common and 'cheap' cars are over here.

Most medium cars in England dont have tow bars and when i see one that has i dont buy it.

I dont care if a fiesta has a tow bar because you know that hasnt done any heavy towing.

How you cant equate your slipping clutch and the tow bar = used for towing is beyond me.
The problem is that EVERYONE in NL has a bloody caravan, and therefore almost every car will have a towbar. It's unavoidable :p

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And the tax definitely does... In Belgium the tax is based on the power of a car.
Registration tax is power, annual tax is engine size.
 
Nice car snowdog.

If you didn't buy it then I would!


















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since cars cost so much there and you already own a reliable one, why not tune it ? engine swap to a t5? id much rather ave a t5 volvo than a galant with a slippy clutch and 8sec to 60 isnt that quick for a 2.5l v6, your 2L? volvo 9.2sec.. i cant tell what model of volvo you have but it seems volvo did 200-250bhp turbo 0-60 7sec 150mph engines for most models, so one should bolt right into yours. that is the most cost effective way for you imo. can get those polish guys to do it for you cheaply hah ;)
 
No but I question his opinions most, he's nearly the opposite of me trying to convince me I am the one who is wrong, in pretty much any situation.

Nope, that's still pretty much the entire forum :p. Two examples I can think of are when you said something along the lines of anyone who pays over £1,000 for a total respray is an idiot because you have can drive to Poland, get it stripped, sanded, preped and sprayed all within a weekend for pennies, and the other was when you were almost bragging about speeding/racing people. It wasn't just Fox lining up to give you a kicking on those occasions, this thread is no different.

Because imo that is fast, and it is a nice upgrade from what I have atm ?

But it's not really. You're moving from one glacially slow car to another. For someone who has claimed to be all about speed, this isn't really a "nice upgrade", is it?

If I want faster for my budget I either have to drop requirements ( and go for scooby or similar) or significantly increase my budget, I can't be arsed with both.

So basically, you can't afford the car you want? Why not do what most people do in such a situation and just save more money? Is your Volvo is on it's last legs? Obviously not if you're going to be keeping it for the next 3 months in case the Galant turns out to be a shed :p.

I'm losing nothing at all over the Volvo but gaining comfort and speed.

But you're gaining such little "comfort and speed" it is barely worth considering. You're also gaining a rusty nail of a car that may hold a plethora of unknown issues.

Errr, again, a wild assumption.

No. It is not. Old Used cars very rarely do not have hidden issues, An old used car that is a 1/4th of the average selling price of a good example is BOUND to have something up with it.

Quite frankly, it sounds like some of you guys have ZERO experience at all with buying older cars. And are avoiding them purely for the fact that they're, well old. For us ( as in my family), the habit is to buy cars 10-20 years old, buying a younger one was only a one time exception, you are all acting as if all old cars are money pits, whereas looking at all our current and previous cars, they definitely aren't...

Please, come off it. OcUK is not picking on you. Loads of us who are being critical are hardly rocking about in brand new 60 plate I10s. I am the poster child for buying old, rusty **** cars. Even I can still take a step back and be critical, why can't you?
 
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Please, come off it. OcUK is not picking on you. Loads of us who are being critical are hardly rocking about in new brand 60 plate I10s. I am the poster child for buying old, rusty **** cars. Even I can still take a step back and be critical, why can't you?

AHAHAHAHA (not at you, at what you quoted) :D

I didn't see that before...I've only ever owned utter rubbish cheap nasty cars, look at what I'm currently driving. A 12 year old 318iS (my newest car yet, all previous ones have been 15+ years old) with loads of issues. I knew it had lots when I bought it and knew it would have other issues along the line of ownership. This second part is something the OP seems to not realise, older cars always have problems beyond what you first see, when at a silly low priced compared to others it's highly likely that there are some very costly problems hidden away.
 
Nope, that's still pretty much the entire forum :p. Two examples I can think of are when you said something along the lines of anyone who pays over £1,000 for a total respray is an idiot because you have can drive to Poland, get it stripped, sanded, preped and sprayed all within a weekend for pennies, and the other was when you were almost bragging about speeding/racing people. It wasn't just Fox lining up to give you a kicking on those occasions, this thread is no different.
That was indeed a but stupid the spraying comment, but there is nothing wrong with speeding and luckily I and many other will get our way as they are about to raise the speed limit on motorways here thanks to the much improved political climate.

But it's not really. You're moving from one glacially slow car to another. For someone who has claimed to be all about speed, this isn't really a "nice upgrade", is it?
For me it is fast and it is a nice upgrade. Glacially slow is a 1.0 liter car that struggles to keep up on the motorway, not a car that can cruise along fine at 90 mph...

So basically, you can't afford the car you want? Why not do what most people do in such a situation and just save more money? Is your Volvo is on it's last legs? Obviously not if you're going to be keeping it for the next 3 months in case the Galant turns out to be a shed :p.
Because I HATE saving money, and I'm crap at it. I'm bored of my Volvo and the Galant would be something new.

But you're gaining such little "comfort and speed" it is barely worth considering. You're also gaining a rusty nail of a car that may hold a plethora of unknown issues.
That is your opinion, the Galant felt a lot faster to me and especially the power at low revs was very much improved over my volvo which I really have to rag to get to the power.

No. It is not. Old Used cars very rarely do not have hidden issues, An old used car that is a 1/4th of the average selling price of a good example is BOUND to have something up with it.
It is to early to say that now though. My car was cheap and the issues were what, a 10€ thermostat and 11€ gear bearings ? The previous owner didn't really care but I have no issues with it, It should be fine for at least a couple of years still.

Please, come off it. OcUK is not picking on you. Loads of us who are being critical are hardly rocking about in brand new 60 plate I10s. I am the poster child for buying old, rusty **** cars. Even I can still take a step back and be critical, why can't you?

Because the criticism seems to be I should have spent more, while I'm happy I got what I wanted for far less than I wanted to spend.
 
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Is Joshy going to hide back in his hole once The Fox returns? :D

No! I have decided to relaunch Joshy, as the new voice of reason on these boards, and am taking on all PR duties and bookings for after dinner speaking :D
 
Dont see why u want to have 2 cars at under 20 years of age mate. If it was me id just sell ur current one if i wanted a new one and put the money from that together with my savings and get a nice car for that. No point keeping 2 cars for a single young male as far as i can see.

Oh and when i said it looked sporty on msn i meant the front bit and general shape, nothing about performance in that comment. So dont call me an idiot when i say that k.

sry dont mean to pee u off cos i know ur getting hammered on ur thread but i was just curious why a sporty lookin car had the towbar
.snowy. says (6:34 PM):
sporty loking car
skeet says (6:34 PM):
looks like one to me, i mean it isnt a average lookin car imo
.snowy. says (6:35 PM):
which is why i wont evemn go furtehr into this
skeet says (6:35 PM):
obviously its personal preference cos its visuals
lol k

I mean look at the front thats like a sportyish look imo and then the rest of the car is average i guess and then u come to the back and bam a massive errect rod. Just weird.
 
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If you do get it and ends up not costing too much and u like it then enjoy it snowy. But do remember ur young ur only using ur knowledge from being with ur dad which is just 1 mans experience with cars and being on the forums your getting a much broader view of opinions from experienced drivers (i hope lol).

And about the towbar being nl and not much uk. I find that to be unfounded remark. If anything the uk has more for large family cars because we are a nation of caravaners. We love our caravan holidays. But i would only see them on large family cars not the car ur buying or similar.
 
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That was indeed a but stupid the spraying comment, but there is nothing wrong with speeding and luckily I and many other will get our way as they are about to raise the speed limit on motorways here thanks to the much improved political climate.

You're sort of missing the point though? You do have a number of (for a lack a better, less polite word) "misguided" view that clash with the majority of the forum, not just with Fox, so why single him out?

Because I HATE saving money, and I'm crap at it. I'm bored of my Volvo and the Galant would be something new.


Of course you are bored of the Volvo. It's a Volvo! And not one of the mildly interesting Turbocharged versions either. However it is a cheap car that you know well.

"Wanting something new" is just about the worst excuse for changing a car. Certainly when you are young and don't really have the cash monies to buy something that is a marked improvement. This thread proves this.

That is your opinion, the Galant felt a lot faster to me and especially the power at low revs was very much improved over my volvo which I really have to rag to get to the power.

It's pretty much your opinion too. You don't even own the car yet and you're already looking into bunging the VR-4 lump in it...

It is to early to say that now though. My car was cheap and the issues were what, a 10€ thermostat and 11€ gear bearings ? The previous owner didn't really care but I have no issues with it, It should be fine for at least a couple of years still.

Which really does beg the question - Why on earth get rid of it if you can't afford anything significantly better!? :confused:

Because the criticism seems to be I should have spent more, while I'm happy I got what I wanted for far less than I wanted to spend.

This might be the case, but do you honestly not see why you are getting the criticism? Do you honestly look at those pictures you posted and think "Damn, that's a nice car"?
 
You're sort of missing the point though? You do have a number of (for a lack a better, less polite word) "misguided" view that clash with the majority of the forum, not just with Fox, so why single him out?
Simply said, he's drawing more attention to himself, and others draw the attention to him, I remember VARIOUS threads and various comments by him ( in threads I haven't even posted in just lurked in) while I never really heard or remember anything by ''joshy'' before.

Of course you are bored of the Volvo. It's a Volvo! And not one of the mildly interesting Turbocharged versions either. However it is a cheap car that you know well.
So you reckon I should buy the exact same car but the 200bhp t4 version instead ( they start from 3k...)?

"Wanting something new" is just about the worst excuse for changing a car. Certainly when you are young and don't really have the cash monies to buy something that is a marked improvement. This thread proves this.
What is a marked improvement then ? A 2003 Mondeo Ghia 2.5 ? I see that in the exact same league...


It's pretty much your opinion too. You don't even own the car yet and you're already looking into bunging the VR-4 lump in it...
No, I just said the idea of a 2.5v6> twin turbo ( not a VR4 base model) is tempting ( having seen conversions about on the net), but I doubt I'd ever modify a car in such a way. But it's interesting in the same way as one guy converted his 2.0 V40 into a 2.0T with 230 bhp... It's too much hassle to do it.


Which really does beg the question - Why on earth get rid of it if you can't afford anything significantly better!? :confused:
I'm not getting rid of anything just yet :confused:. Going from a an l4 to a v6 is a significant improvement, I also gain features like electric seats...

This might be the case, but do you honestly not see why you are getting the criticism? Do you honestly look at those pictures you posted and think "Damn, that's a nice car"?
Yes, of course, otherwise I wouldn't consider buying it...


I want a car that is:
A little bit more comfy than current car.
A little bit faster than current car.
CC, Cr C. Heated Seats.
After that:
As Cheap as possible.

I'd also like:
Any other new toys.
Ext. looks ( this is personal however, I love the way galants and most mid 90's jap cars look, dislike the 2000-onwards trend in cars)
Clean looking cars ( yes this isn't one, but it can be with a little bit of work)
Easy to work on.
 
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