Teen Banned From US For Barracking Obama

I'm speechless you can argue and believe you're right that a country doesn't have a right to deny someone in.

There's little more to be said. If you can't understand that it's a human right to say "no, I don't feel you should be in my home" (and a country is a home) then... just... :( really.

Because your home is your home, a country is an area of land with mostly public space, saying someone can't move freely because of some silly human made rule is absurd, such rules are often made for all the wrong reasons as well, its like a kind of racism, certainly against human rights and i don't see why its not recognized as such.
 
Because your home is your home, a country is an area of land with mostly public space, saying someone can't move freely because of some silly human made rule is absurd, such rules are often made for all the wrong reasons as well, its like a kind of racism, certainly against human rights and i don't see why its not recognized as such.

No.

The country in which you're born is your homeland.

Seriously. I'm actually hoping you're trolling.
 
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It's one of the most fantastic countries in the entire world. You are missing out if you don't visit here. In the last week alone I've seen more beautiful natural sights in one corner of it than the entire UK has to offer.

Anyway, I'm off to Laguna Seca now, then I'm going to drive down Highway 1 past Big Sur. I'll try and dodge the murderers.


I was referring to the disastrous effect the, argubly evil, US superpower is having on the world e.g. killing civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, causing worldwide poverty due to greed, pollution etc...
 
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No.

The country in which you're born is your homeland.

Seriously. I'm actually hoping you're trolling.

It says a lot that you would hope im trolling and goes to show the kind of world we actually live in and what people really think about each other, the control grid is very much ingrained in peoples sense of reality.
 
Because your home is your home, a country is an area of land with mostly public space, saying someone can't move freely because of some silly human made rule is absurd, such rules are often made for all the wrong reasons as well, its like a kind of racism, certainly against human rights and i don't see why its not recognized as such.

Are you a Gipsy?

If you're not, would you mind if a whole bunch of Gipsy's came and stopped in your garden?
 
I was referring to the disastrous effect the, argubly evil, US superpower is having on the world e.g. killing civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, causing worldwide poverty due to greed, pollution etc...

Remind me again how you have the stomach to live in the UK?
 
Are you a Gipsy?

If you're not, would you mind if a whole bunch of Gipsy's came and stopped in your garden?

Why do some insist on making such arguments when my point is quite clear and reasonable, just admit that a country is a very different place to your garden, house or bedroom, i never said life doesn't have a right to personal space, merely existing takes a tiny amount of space other things can't occupy at the same time.
 
It says a lot that you would hope im trolling and goes to show the kind of world we actually live in and what people really think about each other, the control grid is very much ingrained in peoples sense of reality.

I hope you're trolling - because if you're not, then I'm actually scared for how your brain works.

Why do some insist on making such arguments when my point is quite clear and reasonable, just admit that a country is a very different place to your garden, house or bedroom, i never said life doesn't have a right to personal space, merely existing takes a tiny amount of space other things can't occupy at the same time.

Dude. I'll tell you the truth. You're simply not making sense. It's a country.

It's a home to millions of people, which in turns have formed a government. Basically, that gov. is saying they don't want someone in their country.

What you're basically putting across is that I've got the right to go to say Australia, tell them "well, it's only a country, not a house, so I can just come here, live and that's that!"

Things don't happen like that outside of the world of make believe, where Mickey Mouse and Donald are skipping down the street. In the real world, when you enter a country, they have to ensure you're either not a threat to the country, won't place a burden on the health care / finacial assets of the country, are able to integrate with the others living in the country.

For example, if you're too unhealthy / over weight, Australia can and will refuse you migrating there to live. They figure you'll eventually cost them $xxxx amount of cash, due to your health.

A country is a collection of people (some of whom will be immigrants) which now call that place a homeland.
 
Why do some insist on making such arguments when my point is quite clear and reasonable, just admit that a country is a very different place to your garden, house or bedroom, i never said life doesn't have a right to personal space, merely existing takes a tiny amount of space other things can't occupy at the same time.

A country is just a very big collection of gardens, houses and bedrooms.
 
Wow it really shows just how conditioned and domesticated humans have become, open your eyes and see that humans are just intelligent animals, we have no right to enforce such rules when it comes to an individuals right to move freely, it really is absurd if you think about it, take a step back and see just how silly it is that a group of people can all agree that others can or cannot pass their imaginary border just because they don't like their kind around these parts, seriously?
 
Wow it really shows just how conditioned and domesticated humans have become, open your eyes and see that humans are just intelligent animals, we have no right to enforce such rules when it comes to an individuals right to move freely, it really is absurd if you think about it, take a step back and see just how silly it is that a group of people can all agree that others can or cannot pass their imaginary border just because they don't like their kind around these parts, seriously?

Animals are tribal and territorial, too, as has been said. Chimpanzees will tear each other apart, never mind your poncy deportation. What's your point?
 
My point is quite simple, no individual or group has the right to ban someone from passing an imaginary border and entering a county, same as they don't have the right to demand passports and deport anyone, that goes against their freedom of choice because it involves enforcement by means of kidnapping, prison and human rights abuse.
 
My point is quite simple, no individual or group has the right to ban someone from passing an imaginary border and entering a county, same as they don't have the right to demand passports and deport anyone, that goes against their freedom of choice because it involves enforcement by means of kidnapping, prison and human rights abuse.

But why? You've flipped from arguing that we're just animals and have the right to roam, to completely ignoring my point that animals themselves are often viciously territorial.

Sounds like you need to start writing letters to your MP.

Lots of them.
 
But why? You've flipped from arguing that we're just animals and have the right to roam, to completely ignoring my point that animals themselves are often viciously territorial.

Sounds like you need to start writing letters to your MP.

Lots of them.

Humans and animals may well be territorial but it doesn't mean its good or right, claiming ownership of a whole land mass and enforcing rules often goes against the freedom of choice of an individual.

A country is just a very big collection of gardens, houses and bedrooms.

Sure many of those things exist and so does a lot of open space otherwise no one could move freely even in their own country.
 
Wow it really shows just how conditioned and domesticated humans have become, open your eyes and see that humans are just intelligent animals, we have no right to enforce such rules when it comes to an individuals right to move freely, it really is absurd if you think about it, take a step back and see just how silly it is that a group of people can all agree that others can or cannot pass their imaginary border just because they don't like their kind around these parts, seriously?

Tell you what, just for one week I give you the power to tell the world they can move freely to whatever country they want to go to.
Any idea where most of them would come and what an impact that would have on your life plus friends + family?
 
Typical American overreaction really, I'm surprised they didn't label him as a terrorist and ship him to Guantanamo for "questioning".
 
My point is quite simple, no individual or group has the right to ban someone from passing an imaginary border and entering a county, same as they don't have the right to demand passports and deport anyone, that goes against their freedom of choice because it involves enforcement by means of kidnapping, prison and human rights abuse.

So it's your right to go *ANYWHERE* you want?

So it's my right to enter the US without them wanting me there? Or China? Or anyone can enter the UK, don't worry about borders?

Dude. You're *NOT* making any sense.

If I were a deer, and walked into a lions hunting ground, I don't think it'd work out well for me, do you? Stop going on about animals. That argument holds no water, and neither does anything else you're saying. You're argument isn't even full of holes, it's not even got enough structure to call it that!
 
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