Dyslexia or just dumb?
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Well if that chap had of bothered to read the current research coming out of that area of the world he would have found that it is present but exhibits itself differently and the thought behind that is that different language groups use different parts of the brain. So you have a politician speaking **** about things they don't understand to suit their own political agenda. Moreover, we know with other such things like MRSA that we have a greater incidence in this country for it because we actually test for it whereas others don't and strangely enough don't find it! Funny that. Same for this .. if you look you will find it if you don't you won't.
Half of the problem is that parents love a syndrome, ADHD, dyslexia and gene related obesity.
None of those are syndromes.
You were not required to. Although the comment had little to do with the OP so the criticism is moot.
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Here in lies the problem. If you look hard enough for anything you will find it, even though it doesn't exist.
If you look for who shot JFK in the bible, you'l eventually start finding patterns, (i.e bible code)
If you test for stupidity you will find it (because some people are stupid that mp for instance), if you confuse bad teaching + stupidity or lazyness like the op suggests with what you want to find, then the system has failed.
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I'm guessing you think this of yourself? When you say "then" you actually mean "than". Or maybe I've just been trolled.
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I'd say there are a few things which make the comparison unfair:
Does their educational system actively look out for this in the same way the UK does? Do they have the funding in place for it?
It could be that in the west we simply have a greater disposition to such afflictions (similarly, in south east Asia, it's thought a lot more people have problems with short-sightedness - does that mean most of the people there are putting it on so they can get glasses and look cool? Obviously though I'm using it as an example as it's a lot easier to quantify, but is similar because it's thought to be passed through inheritance).
They speak a different language, with a different grammatical structure, and words are displayed completely differently. IIRC in Korean many words are displayed as a single complex character, composed of simpler characters layered upon one another, which is obviously very different to our system where words are sequences of characters (although I could be wrong there, it's been a while since I tried to learn Korean!)
Dyslexia is a load of rubbish - a catch-all with no agreed definition that just covers up a wide range of learning difficulties. I don't see why we need to diagnose people with special needs in any case - surely it should just be that whoever is struggling in class should receive extra help?
So how do you explain the structural neurological differences on PET scans and MRI's then?
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HA grammEr, love it.
I was suspected dyslexic in my first few years at school. A local university started doing tests on a number of us as part of dyslexia research. It turns out that I wasn't dyslexic, just a bit slow (literally - always the last in the class to finish most written work). I ended up in the 'control' group of the dyslexia study from about 5-15 years old.
I always used to resent people with dyslexia getting extra time in exams though. I was slower than most of them but nothing for me
. Maybe I have some undiagnosed learning disorder... Still slow at handwriting now. It's only typing that allows me to keep up.
I always used to resent people with dyslexia getting extra time in exams though. I was slower than most of them but nothing for me
. Maybe I have some undiagnosed learning disorder... Still slow at handwriting now. It's only typing that allows me to keep up.No excuses - I am stupid!
I think the name you give it is irrelevant.
Just because South Korea doesn't really find many case of dyslexia, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 20 years ago, children who fell badly behind at school will have been labelled dumb.
What nobody sat down and thought about, was what made those children significantly "dumber" than the average child. There is huge swathes of human genetics we don't understand fully, so why is one child significantly more intelligent than the average, and one significantly lower ?
We haven't thought up a name for it yet, but there will be some reason why some children can do A Levels at 8, and are incredibly intelligent, compared to some 8 year olds, who, despite 1 to 1 teaching cant even read and write properly yet.
Its all to easy just to write these children off as dumb, as South Korea most probably does, preferring not to label them and educate them as normal.
But the fact that some children will find it harder to learn than others will be down to some genetic difference. The fact we choose to give a name to that genetic difference and South Korea doesn't, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
We haven't given a name to the variance that enables the great scientists of this world to learn so much quicker and earlier than average people, we just call them a genius, or a boy wonder.
But again, just because we don't have a name for it, doesn't mean that some kids aren't stratospherically more intelligent than average children.
Exactly
There is a difference there, there are differences that work the other way as well making children incredibly more intelligent than average, as well as incredibly less.
Some people just object to the naming and labelling of children and make out its all fake.
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I can't and haven't seen them, hence why I'm playing devils advocate and raising questions rather than giving answers.
You make a good point, why is a disability to do something labelled as dyslexia, but the ability to do it better than most not labelled as something too.
If your good, your intelligen. If your not your dsylexic or .......
In either case your right, and I suppose the need for the label comes from the need for people to fit into an average intelligence, being below leads to problems.
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As I have said there is no requirement to label people in order to give them extra help. School should be providing extra help to all students who are struggling (whatever the reason). In fact labelling might make the situation worse as middle class children are more likely to get tested and get the advantages from the system than working class children. Also, from a moral point of view, why should someone who is simply finding work difficult get less help than someone who has been labelled 'dyslexic'?