Dyslexia or just dumb?
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Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but very few people with poor literacy have a high paid job, it is far more than a just a casual link:
http://www.lifelonglearning.co.uk/mosergroup/rep03.htm
I do that all the time, never figured it made me dyslexic.
I hope to God you're joking.
What? Are you just making this up as you go along?
No, simply pointing out there is a huge difference between poor education and struggling with literacy. Having poor literacy does not stop you from doing well.
Stats can be made to show anything. When looking at literacy level bs pay. It is pointless including people who did no go to school, are happy to go on the dole and so forth.
Stats can be made to show anything. When looking at literacy level bs pay. It is pointless including people who did no go to school, are happy to go on the dole and so forth.
Dude, that table is shocking and the sweeping generalisations that it makes are worse.
dyslexic people just need different ways to absorb information, there is no connection whatsoever between intelligence and dyslexia, what is important is correct diagnosis as if the person and there peers are aware of the condition they can actively seek ways to alleviate the issues it causes.
Where i would say there are links is between poor education and people who are not diagnosed or do not receive the correct help, without a diagnosis many sufferers just shrug the condition off as being unable to learn and thats that, if they know there is a valid reason why they struggle they strive to find a solution.
Where i would say there are links is between poor education and people who are not diagnosed or do not receive the correct help, without a diagnosis many sufferers just shrug the condition off as being unable to learn and thats that, if they know there is a valid reason why they struggle they strive to find a solution.
Agreed, being uneducated does not necessarily equate to poor literacy skills, but I will disagree that having poor literacy is not detrimental to social well-being. All of the facts available prove that it is detrimental.
Why is it pointless including people who did not go to school? You stated yourself that education and literacy are two seperate entities. The table does not include unemployed people, only those who are employed, whether they went to school or not is irrelevant.
Why is it so unbelievable that, generally, low literacy leads to low social status? You seem unwilling to accept that fact, when all of the literature available confirms that it is true.
Because low literacy on it's own does not equate to low social standing that is the point. If we remove or adjust for the real reasons for low social standing then you'll see a much more ballanced table.
I'm more interested in you showing low literacy = low social standing.
Not low literacy+poor education+ poor family/couminty/morals = low social standings.
There are many people who are highly educated and way of that pay chart with poor literacy.
I'm more interested in you showing low literacy = low social standing.
Not low literacy+poor education+ poor family/couminty/morals = low social standings.
There are many people who are highly educated and way of that pay chart with poor literacy.
"The Working Group was appointed by the Secretary of State in June 1998. It is chaired by Sir Claus Moser, Chairman of the Basic Skills Agency and its members include experts from adult further education, industry, national and local government and those with direct experience of adult learning."
Tell it to them.
This looks to me like they need to go back to school and learn how to make a decent table. If that is the very best that they can do then I need say no more.
I can churn out links all day that prove the theory that low literacy levels leads to low social status, poverty, bad health and low moral, every study I have read proves that to be the case. I would be interested in you providing a link to one that proves otherwise.
I doubt that very much, you are just making it up again, providing anecdotal evidence that is worthless, but fits your point of view.
No you can't as it is statistical research that does not take into account other reasons.
A better statistical paper would look at people from same background and same school all of whom say got 5 As and 5 Cs or lower, then comparing the pay between the group who got an A in English compared to those who got a C or lower.
A job should be based on your strong points of which there are many, many of which are not based on education.
Many jobs need you to communicate efficiently but not need to able to produce a word perfect essay.
A better statistical paper would look at people from same background and same school all of whom say got 5 As and 5 Cs or lower, then comparing the pay between the group who got an A in English compared to those who got a C or lower.
A job should be based on your strong points of which there are many, many of which are not based on education.
Many jobs need you to communicate efficiently but not need to able to produce a word perfect essay.
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I have better things to do with my time thanks, however if I was paid to do research in the area you can be damn sure I could make a better table than that tripe.
Off topic but just had a look at your charger.... how is she coming along?