Virgin Media Engineer. Really?
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It quite clearly is, or the difference you highlight wouldnt be there!
Because its pretty much the only big thing that 'proves' your point.
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No they don't. Where do you make this up from. As a grad at THE Uk oem R&D you would be on 26k.
55-60k. LOL
[TW]Fox;17450124 said:
The difference is the same as the difference in all other aspects of buying stuff in USA or UK, where in UK you always pay more for the exact same item / level of service / quality etc.
It's the same for food, the same for electronics, the same for everything
Not really, no. There are loads of differences that end up tipping the scales both ways. Some things are cheaper in the UK, some things are cheaper in the USA. It's nothing like as simple as make out but then none of things you ever think are so simple really are, so no change there.
Used cars are cheaper here, we don't pay medical insurance, new cars and takeout are cheaper there, etc etc.
RETARD, DID YOU MANAGE TO MISS THE PART WHERE I SAID "Engineer/SENIOR Engineer"
AT NO POINT did I mention straight out graduate, but was talking about people who have worked in the field for a while.
Next time don't post just for the sake of posting, but rather read what you are commenting on.
[TW]Fox;17450157 said:
We also get pretty crap service from NHS, much worse than you get via private insurance there or via BUPA here. Plus the good jobs have free health insurance in USA
Yes used cars are cheaper here, I'll give you that, but fresh food is also cheaper there afaik.
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So how exactly would you get a senior role? After all YOU were looking at the roles to take! Ie what you could earn.
JLR IS 35-50k for the techincal roles, 50k is popping up a lot for the hybrid specialistscwhich you couldn't get as to quote 'you are a retard'. It doesn't come much better than JLR for auto engineers. But then what would I know, I only work there.
JLR IS 35-50k for the techincal roles, 50k is popping up a lot for the hybrid specialistscwhich you couldn't get as to quote 'you are a retard'. It doesn't come much better than JLR for auto engineers. But then what would I know, I only work there.
But probably about as good if not slightly better than the service and the experience you get from the highly fragmented healthcare system in the USA...
Oh well thats ok then.
'afaik'?
Surely you either know or you dont, are you telling me you've not looked at food prices when you were there?
Hang on, when were you last there?
You entirely deserve that comment as you always do a Fox and popup posting BS
For instance, here is data from the USA gov. via their prevailing wage stuff for companies who bring in people from abroad.
Honda Performance Development Inc, 25145 Anza Drive, Santa Clarita, CA
SENIOR DESIGN ENGINEER $91872
HPD are the people who run the Acura LMS team.
Data is from '08
Hyundai America Technical Center, Inc., 6800 Geddes Road, Superior Township, MI
SR. DESIGN ENGINEER $91437
Here is Hyundai from '08 as well.
Both of those are the first paygrade for Sr Engineer, as both companies go I, II, III afaik
A normal Engineer II for both companies is on about $75k looking at some of the figures from 06 and 07.
How much does an equivalent person at JLR (say someone working high up on engines or Suspension systems) earn?
I would NOT think it's over £90k
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Speak for yourself. It's been nothing but awesome for me, my taxes will never cover what I've had.
I'm disappointed by your attitude again Rypt, particularly as you make up your opinions to drive down peoples throats. It won't work well when you leave uni at become the CEO of Atkins as your first job
[TW]Fox;17450237 said:
From what my American friends say (this way I can gauge it over a larger area as they are from 4 different states, and one has lived in a further 2 states) good quality food is cheaper there, but entirely depends on what part of USA you are in.
California has lots of VERY fresh fish and fruit, other parts less so.
I posted the other day in another thread how the NHS has a 30 day waiting list to do the same thing BUPA can do in 7 days, at the VERY SAME clinic
If you're happy enough with your course stay and get your MEng now, it will save hassle later on but CEng is only a big thing in certian industries.
Pay is relativeliving in Aberdeen isn't the best
KaHn
Don't you like it that much? Admittedly I've only spent a couple of days up there meeting my employer (immediately got contracted down south), but it seemed quite nice. Better than I thought it would be.
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What?
So for automaker role you pull out specialist race teams. Then you say you could earn 55-60k in the uk in an R&D which I dispute as too much and you reply to that by asking me' to prove you could earn over 90k?!?
Does not make sense... At all.
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I don't doubt that your data is correct - but the car industry in the US is much larger and more establish than the UK so the pay variation is sort of expected.
It's also only one part/sector of engineering - it doesn't necessarily mean the UK pays lower salaries to engineers than the US (although I wouldn't be surprised). Maybe if we compared the oil & gas industry it would be more even.
The pay structure within HPD is the same as within the rest of Honda afaik - the figures for that year simply only had HPD listed, if you want I can go find one from Honda road cars, and I gave a second example using Hyundai
I'm saying that the same position within UK R&D for vehicles would be at about £60k tops, which you were disputing. I assumed you were implying that you got paid more, which is why I said HOW MUCH is the equivalent position in UK then...
In order to even begin to be EVEN with USA you'd need to have a salary of $1=£1 due to $1 getting you further than £1
I've always prefaced my comment with stating I'm only looking at one sector here, so maybe other sectors are different ... but I was only comparing the one that interests me.
As for car industry being more established in USA, that was one of my comments ... the majority of automotive industry work for the major makers is in Europe rather than in UK, and you are also better paid there afaik than the UK operations (but still below USA levels)