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Well GF104 is fairly recent and is small enough to allow additional redundancy on the 40nm process to improve yields and thus release a full fledged card.
and GF106, well...
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Well GF104 is fairly recent and is small enough to allow additional redundancy on the 40nm process to improve yields and thus release a full fledged card.
and GF106, well...
The launch is on October the 12th
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...2c-southern-islands-on-october-122c-2010.aspx
Some pics there too.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...2c-southern-islands-on-october-122c-2010.aspx
Some pics there too.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour-amd-barts-xt-hd-6770-faster-than-hd-5850/9931.html
Apparently the 6770, even with only 960 shaders, may end up as fast or faster than the 5850. This bodes well for the rumours of the new shader arrangement. A 1920 shader part with similar underlying performance gains could be very interesting indeed - and by interesting I really just mean fast.
Apparently the 6770, even with only 960 shaders, may end up as fast or faster than the 5850. This bodes well for the rumours of the new shader arrangement. A 1920 shader part with similar underlying performance gains could be very interesting indeed - and by interesting I really just mean fast.
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That would be bloody impressive if they could pull that off the HD5850 has 1440 shaders which means they have managed to make 33% more efficient for the same speed and presumably that could also means a smaller die then the HD5850 which really puts AMD in the drivers seat.
I don't think it will be significantly quicker if at all, than the 5850 and my reasoning is that in those slides it clearly pits the pro (ie the 6750) up against the gtx460 768mb and the XT up against the gtx460 1024mb, so if it was too much faster then the 6750 would be up against the 1meg rather than the 768.
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That's true, unless AMD plan to pass on the cost savings of a smaller chip.
Which makes sense as it's the bang per buck that matters in the end
Very much so, that's exactly what they did with the 4 series, the priced the 4850 and 4870 to compete in price against the 9800s, and like the 5850 being priced against the GTX280 despite being much faster.
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Don't forget tho the 5850 has extra SPs its not fully utilising them to the best performance - for 9/10 scenarios they haven't made any difference other than cutting out deadwood. As I've said for awhile you might see some big performance increases in some scenarios but overall they will only be a few percent faster. Its been about making the architecture more efficent, more cost effective, etc. the real performance gains will come next round.
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Yeh that 6770 looks awesome, it has more shaders and memory bandwidth than I thought it would. If AMD price it right, the 460 could have a very hard time indeed.
Yeh that 6770 looks awesome, it has more shaders and memory bandwidth than I thought it would. If AMD price it right, the 460 could have a very hard time indeed.
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I think these should come in at about 170-180 due to the smaller die size and greater supply, and it's because it's a mainstream part.
Also I think AMD are really trying to take out GF104 with these cards, Nvidia's stronghold...
They really aren't going to release a 6770 at £200+, that's nearly a doubling of its price point. 6770s sit in the mainstream area of price, they realistically shouldn't be much more than £150. I think the point in the graph was to show "twice the horsepower" for the same price bracket.
Right, well thats sexy news then 
So am I missing something here or is it genuinely great pricing if they do come out at say ~£150? Looks better than 5850 figures wise, so would seem they are undercutting themselves
Unless as I say, I am missing something (very possible), or 5850's drop in price.
I guess I have no real idea where the 6770 stacks up in the line compared to 5000's...is the 6770 a direct replacement for 5770 as the similar name may suggest, or is it hitting somewhere else. As I say, I am very excited if something that looks better than a 5850 will come in at ~£150.
I follow hardware generally (like I knew 6000's were coming out), but I don't really get into the nitty gritty.
So am I missing something here or is it genuinely great pricing if they do come out at say ~£150? Looks better than 5850 figures wise, so would seem they are undercutting themselves
Unless as I say, I am missing something (very possible), or 5850's drop in price.
I guess I have no real idea where the 6770 stacks up in the line compared to 5000's...is the 6770 a direct replacement for 5770 as the similar name may suggest, or is it hitting somewhere else. As I say, I am very excited if something that looks better than a 5850 will come in at ~£150.
I follow hardware generally (like I knew 6000's were coming out), but I don't really get into the nitty gritty.
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Right, well thats sexy news then
So am I missing something here or is it genuinely great pricing if they do come out at say ~£150? Looks better than 5850 figures wise, so would seem they are undercutting themselves
Yes & No, yes they are undercutting them selves, but the die size reduction saves some production cost, and if they can sell allot more of them due to them being more price competitive, and if they get more GPU's from a wafer so they are not so supply constrained then it's kind of a win - win.
