Lottery Numbers - 1,2,3,4,5,6

thephantom114 said:
Apparently 10,000 people do 1,2,3,4,5,6 every week, so even if they did come up you would win very little.
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wow interesting thread about it all

1 in 14 million DAMN!!

Hands up all you ocukers that have a direct debit setup to do the lottery twice a week.... u know who u are lol
 
psd99 said:
wow interesting thread about it all

1 in 14 million DAMN!!

Hands up all you ocukers that have a direct debit setup to do the lottery twice a week.... u know who u are lol
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Guilty as charged, same 6 numbers Wed and Sat for many a year by DD... :(
 
thephantom114 said:
Apparently 10,000 people do 1,2,3,4,5,6 every week, so even if they did come up you would win very little.
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That is the only stat that the Lotto has released relating to the lottery. Image how gutted you would be seeing your numbers come up for a £7m jackpot and only getting £700 each? :D

The general advice to maximise your winnings should your numbers come up (4 numbers or greater) is as follows:

Avoid the numbers 1 to 31 - loads of people use birthdays so the numbers 1 to 31 and especially 1 to 12 are backed the most.

Avoid any selection of numbers which form a shape or letter on the lottery card. A state draw in America once had thousands of winners as the winning jackpot numbers perfectly spelt the letter M on the lottery card.

We used to have a syndicate at the last place I worked and followed these rules. When 5 numbers came up we were winning £5k to £7k. ANother lad I knew at the time won 5 numbers with low numbers and only got £1500.

The odds of any numbers coming up are the same so at least make the odds of your winnings being greater.
 
wannabedamned said:
I dont get this atall, I was never good with this sort of thing. But surely the odds of numbers being in sequence are slimmer than the odds the numbers will not. And surely that would make a difference to the statistics overall
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Relatively easy way to get your head around it is to remove all association between them, replace the numbers with 49 distinct symbols. Easier to see then that any combination of 6 is equally likely.
 
I'm astonished there are so many people who didn't know it was 1/14m :confused: I've known that since the lottery started.
 
Abraham said:
Relatively easy way to get your head around it is to remove all association between them, replace the numbers with 49 distinct symbols. Easier to see then that any combination of 6 is equally likely.
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Except then your mind would just freak out at the idea of all the balls with square looking symbols turning up. ;)
 
TheCenturion said:
In theory, each number has an equal chance of being picked,
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again no, if you watch some balls never rise as high (possible slight weighted) also slight damage to the ball could cause this. Some balls will have a slightly higher chance of being picked.

And yes the chances of 1,2,3,4,5,6 coming out in order is lower than 1,2,3,4,5,6 coming out in any order due to the fact you have to take into account the possibility of another combination happening

(1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1) /(49 * 48 * 47 * 46 * 45 * 44) is the chance of them appearing in order since you need 1 ball out of whats remaining. This is equal to (49-6)! / 49!

If any ball could come out in any order the maths is
[(49 - 6)! * 6! ] / 49!
 
D3lirious said:
Although odds of winning with any set of 6 numbers are the same, sets of numbers that might be chosen by disproportionately large numbers of people (such as 1,2,3,4,5,6) should be avoided as the prize will be split equally among all winners.
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So what if other people choose the same numbers? I'd rather win than not.
 
Given that there are multiple sets of balls and multiple machines, both of which are subject to rigorous inspection, I doubt there is any serious risk of any one ball being more or less likely to come up. If you could prove this, you'd as good as shut down the lottery overnight as the gaming license folk would come down on them like a ton of bricks.
 
vonhelmet said:
Given that there are multiple sets of balls and multiple machines, both of which are subject to rigorous inspection, I doubt there is any serious risk of any one ball being more or less likely to come up. If you could prove this, you'd as good as shut down the lottery overnight as the gaming license folk would come down on them like a ton of bricks.
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The lottery has had MANY draws, yet the stats for each number and how often they have come up are not the same ... which seems to indicate that there may be an inherent bias in the process (as you would expect the stats to tend towards being the same after so many draws)
 
Rainmaker said:
Well it could take very much longer than 14 million tries. There is a 1 in 14 million chance (for example) every time you make a draw. It doesn't mean that after 14 million tries you will see your numbers come out.
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This

You could draw forever and it may never come out.
 
rypt said:
The lottery has had MANY draws, yet the stats for each number and how often they have come up are not the same ... which seems to indicate that there may be an inherent bias in the process (as you would expect the stats to tend towards being the same after so many draws)
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The number of draws pales into insignificance in the face of how many possible combinations there are. Maybe I'll be worried about the randomness of things in 1000 years' time.
 
I remember watching a docu years ago about someone who tried to buy every combo for the Australian lotto. Things were going well and after he had bought over half the tickets he was disallowed from buying 'the rest'. Fortunately his numbers came up and he and his team made quite a nice profit iirc. The operation was computers printing onto the tickets and steam of people buying the tickets all over
 
Zogger said:
Still not a good idea to play them for real as when you win you'll be sharing your prize with probably hundreds of other people who did the same thing
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Friend of mine was at a dinner and they had a Camelot rep there doing one of the after dinner speeches. About 11,000 people each week use this combo in the deluded belief that nobody else does, apparently.
 
At least everybody in here is intelligent enough to acknowledge the statistical facts.

I had an argument with my dad about this many years ago when I said that 1 to 6 were just as likely to come up as any other combination he could name. He replied, "yeah, but 1 to 6? That could never happen..."
 
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