Never thought I’d be posting one of these threads…

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…but what the hell, reading some people’s opinions could be helpful, maybe.

Ok, so a little over a month ago, I was out on a ‘works doo’ and got chatting to a woman from work – not having drunk for years, I was pretty merry after 3-4 bottles of bud, anyway we hit it off straight away, I literally felt like I had know her for years and didn’t struggle once for something to say; the conversation between us was flowing – to this day I still think it was more than the booze.

Anyway, long story short, I ended the night kissing her (just a peck goodbye) and saying I was looking forward to seeing her again, but…… I found out during the night (****ed up by that time – so it didn’t really register) that she was seeing someone already :( I later heard from my sober friends, who had commented to her that we were getting on well that night, that she had said it was only a bit of fun that night – this comment hit me quite hard a few days later and I got really down.

Anyway, after this doo we got chatting more at work, on MSN and on Facebook, it became quite clear that her relationship wasn’t all that good, she was really unhappy and from the things she was saying, it didn’t seem like her heart was in it at all. But the more we spoke, the more it became clear we had a fair amount in common; probably why the conversation together always flowed, she also (without prompting too!) mentioned that she felt she had known me for years too…

Anyway, she leaves our place (was temping) and I attend her leaving doo, we spent the afternoon together as mostly everyone filtered away, and I ended up giving her a lift home – outside her place it was clear what we both wanted to do, but I decided against it, and we just had a very long hug – I commented that I had better leave before we did anything we’d regret.

As soon as I’m home we’re both texting each other, and much like the emails and messages before the leaving doo, they are heavily laced, on both sides, with the desire to take things further. This continues over the weekend and to the middle of the following week – at which point she mentions that she’s feeling down, so I [being out and about in the car] offer to pop over to cheer her up…. I arrive at her place and we sit down and chat, a bit of touching here and there (though not sexual), and an hour or so later I get up to leave and we hug again. We’re standing there face to face…. I just said “***** it” and kissed her, and she responds back. And that’s where it starts.

Now, I’ve spent my whole adult life telling myself I would never be the person to break up a relationship, I wouldn’t want it to happen to me and I would hate it to happen to anyone else – but with this woman, I dunno, it just didn’t enter into my mind I would be breaking this promise and hurting someone else….. I think everything I learnt from speaking to her made it seem like it wasn’t a serious relationship; but maybe I’m just searching for grounds for my actions :(

Since this kiss we’ve met a number of times in the evenings and spent those walking around local ‘beauty spots’, we’ve spent a couple of weekend days together, and have taken ‘things’ to the next level. But the more time I spend with her, the more I want to be with her, I’ve learnt so much about her and we do share a great deal in common; so-much-so we even share odd habits, which we both laugh about :) We’re always texting each other and she calls me in the mornings and afternoons on the way to and from work, she’s always on my mind, and I have even lost a great deal of interest in riding my motorcycle now, as I don’t want to do anything that might stop me seeing her… although she said she wont make me give it up :p

Now I have an issue – I want to be with her, she tells me that she wants to be with me, and from our time together, I truly believe her, but, I don’t know what she plans to do [if anything] about her ‘partner’ – and it’s killing me :(

I managed to **** something up once before, I jumped head first into a new relationship and it backfired big time, so I have been desperately trying not to do that, which is one of the reasons I’ve not sat her down yet and asked “him or me” – I don’t feel I have the right to do that. But as friends of mine point out, both male and female, it’s my feelings in this as much as hers and I should have a right to know where I stand…. is this just fun for her, or does she see a future in it?

I know I’ll reach the answer one way or another…
 
she is using you as a play thing.

Get rid.

That's a thought I have kept in the back of my mind, but the more time I spend with her the further back I push it, I guess I don’t want to accept that what we’re building isn’t going anywhere I want it to and could end at her whim :(

I think if she acted differently to what she does with me, I wouldn’t have an issue accepting that I was just a play thing for her, and I’d just hang on an enjoy the ride – but…..
 
How I see it, if she's cheating on someone with you, she will definitely cheat on you with someone else.

Again, something that is also in the recesses of my mind – but I’m not sure if I subscribe to the ‘once a cheater…’ ethos.
 
At the end of the day there's only one person who can fully answer your questions, and that's her. If things are that good then talk to her and be honest about how you feel. If it doesn't work out then it wasn't meant to be, but at all times just be honest.

But remember, however she may feel about her current relationship, even if it's not too serious or not going great, it's the other person who's heart is going to get broken.

Fair enough you can't help who you fall for, or when things just click. But you've gone above and beyond all that. You've kissed and taken it further, and continued to carry on together, and all the while there's this guy who's still with her. However you write it or justify it, you were both fully aware of this and it's a pretty nasty thing to do to someone.
 
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If she's willing to be unhealthy about her relationship and look elsewhere for lulz rather than face up to the issues she's having with her current partner then she would do the exact same thing to you. The moment you guys weren't working she'd be just as inclined to start spending time with someone else, be it at work functions or at local beauty spots or wherever.

Don't be a mug.
 
You are talking to the wrong person. You clearly know what you want - Her. The ball is basically in her court. Tell her what you just posted, let her decide.
 
I would agree on that if she got rid of her "partner" the day after you two decided/made a move...

That’s the thing, they’ve been a ‘live in’ couple for the last few years, she even admits herself that’s she’s dug a hole by them living together, as things became rocky a few years back and haven’t improved. They sleep in different rooms too.

Hmmmmmmm :(

At the end of the day there's only one person who can fully answer your questions, and that's her. If things are that good then talk to her and be honest about how you feel. If it doesn't work out then it wasn't meant to be, but at all times just be honest.

That’s what friends all tell me, but I still have to overcome my past experience with rushing in too much too soon, which is why I still feel I don’t yet have this right….

If she's willing to be unhealthy about her relationship and look elsewhere for lulz rather than face up to the issues she's having with her current partner then she would do the exact same thing to you.

Don't be a mug.

I guess I should have clarified her ‘relationship’ a bit better, I don’t think it’s really a relationship as most would define one, more of a case of friends who live together, but have ‘that’ history.

I don’t consider myself a mug, if it doesn’t work out, I still walk away with some valuable life experiences for the future, but I know it will hurt too.
 
You are talking to the wrong person. You clearly know what you want - Her. The ball is basically in her court. Tell her what you just posted, let her decide.

Sound advice :)

Just need to overcome myself first I guess...

Thanks for all the posts so far guys, like I said, maybe reading your opinions will help in the end.
 
All I can say is......


Women are strange creatures.

From my limited experiences..... I would say she is just teasing you. The only way to find out what she is really about is to give her some ultimatums or possibly play her at her own games.

Tell her you have an Ex girlfriend who is mad about you and is begging to get back with you (in fact you can even tell her you and your ex sometimes get back together some weekend just for some cuddles and chats ;);) - and of course nothing more - yea right baby..... )

Just to see her reaction.
 
With all respect to the above poster, I'd totally dissagree. Don't play games or mess around with lies and half truths, this nearly always comes back to bite you on the ass.
Be honest, do what's best for you, but keep your eyes open and don't get played.
 
Tell her you're uncomfortable about her already being in a relationship and you will not go any further with this fling.

Let her make the next move.

Becareful also as she sounds like a bit of a wildcard.
 
Is she still sleeping with her partner?

Is she showing any indication to you that she wants to end it with him?

Is she showing any firm indication she wants to take things further with you?
 
Definitely sounds as though she's feathering a new nest before she leaps from the old one.

Keep your snake in its' cage and call her bluff; say you like her and would like to see her in a more serious fashion but say that it is dependent on her ending things with her current partner. Until then I'd start being less forthcoming with my affections...
 
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