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Buy a 6870?

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I'm using 2x 5770's for wow (5 clients running at 1900x1080) and I can't get anywhere near the visuals I want
without severe performance issues.

Any idea how fast/expensive the new 6870's will be? Thinking of buying a single one (multiboxing hates crossfire!)
By selling my 2x 5770's on the MM.

I've been told a 6770 will be as good as/better than a 5870, and be around the £200 mark. Any ideas on a 6870?
Or a 6850 etc. Price is something I'm very interested in tbh.
 
Wow should run fine on 5770s if your CPU is upto it...

Regarding the 6 series equivalent of the 5870 its up in the air at the moment really... performance wise I suspect your looking at around 40% overall gains over the GTX480. (its definitely atleast 30% faster in crysis).

Price wise is also somewhat up in the air as it depends how soon they can get the cards to market, what competition is out there, prevalent exchange rate, etc. personally I suspect they won't be cheap on release almost definitely over £400 at launch unless their is credible competition.
 
How much memory you got, also, assuming you're playing with each client windowed you're unlikely to be using xfire anyway.

I played with 5 wow windows open but I go with main window top gfx options, other 4 windows smaller and capped at 15fps, that way I can see whats going on but not waste options on them. However they all run fine at higher speeds without the caps on, stuck at 4gb at the moment, some stuff died in my older ddr2 setup so bought new stuff and with the memory pricing 8gb cost well over twice what I paid for 8GB ddr2, with only 4GB its the memory limitation that stops me adding graphical options/resolution/shader quality to the other clients, nothing else. The main client will use 800MB or so IIRC< and 5x that + windows, firefox and several other things open means thats a no go, with graphical options at minimum the other clients are around 350mb each I think.

Either way, a 6770 should be, around 5850-5870 performance, a 6870 will NOT be double that performance in the same way the 5870 was over the 5770, it will be closer to 30-40% faster at a guess.

Theres no chance in hell a 6870 will be £400, that would to make any sense place a 6850 at £300 and a 6970 at £600 minimum, thats simply not going to happen.

The 4870 had no viable competition at £180 when it launched, yet thats where it launched, the 5870 had no viable competition AT ALL at ANY price point, and thats where it launched. There was literally hands down nothing available that could touch a 5970 yet its rrp was £440, so why, for the 3rd gen/time in a row with zero competition would things be different this time around? Answer, it won't be.
Not a huge performance gain but 33% added cost, AMD and Nvidia(when they can) want to price cards to the point where as many people as possible can afford to upgrade to them, at £400, it will make LESS profit on teh 6870 than at £300, not per card, but they'll sell exponentially more cards which means, more profit. Sell 50k £400 cards with £150 profit , or 500k £300 cards with £100 profit. Thats 7.5mil vs 50mil, volume beats higher margin, massively, and easily and has been the ENTIRE reason for AMD's surging sales, increase in market share, increase in profitability, increase in uptake in prebuilt computers which leads to an increase in AMD CPU/mobo sales as those guys go with an AMD gpu and so the platform is a cheap option.

So the very key thing AMD has built all its success on, selling more cheaper gpu's will just go out the window, not likely.
 
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The two 5770's are at stock speed and are at 100% usage according to CCC most of the time. I've got 6gb of RAM, only 3.5 or so is used whilst playing 5 wow's.

CPU is fine, wow isn't a very cpu intensive programme, but 5clients rendered at 1900x1080 is something different as far as graphics are concerned.

New wow expansion is out soon too, which will makes things run even worse if I tried to run it anywhere near full settings.
 
I think 30-40% is a fair guess I've seen one crysis benchmark which is dead on 30% increase over a GTX480 - and thats on development drivers so in retail with final drivers I suspect 5-15% gains ontop of that.
 
Surely wow is extremely CPU intensive, my fps doubled from stock i7 to 4.1Ghz. I can imagine 5 clients would crave cpu usage. Have you tried the process affinity fix? Also as far as I know crossfire does rather little for WoW, especially in the Wotlk zones.
 
Surely wow is extremely CPU intensive, my fps doubled from stock i7 to 4.1Ghz.

Not really, anyway I've got a 920 @ 3.82ghz, hits maybe 30% across cores, which isn't much imo!

Just remember it's really a single threaded game - as the only way it makes use of a dual
core is that the audio from wow can be used on a second thread.

And yes, crossfire does little for wow, especially if you are using ISboxer to box, which is another reason
I want a single fast card, rather than 2 medium cards.
 
as a side note, why would you want to run 5 clients simultaneously?

Because I play 5 different classes simultaneously so that I can solo content/pvp
which is much more challenging.

*edit* If I get a better paying job than dishwashing (*hint hint* OCUK, you know you want this),
then I shall try 10, like Mercurio does (who solo's icc10..).

Btw someone (I forgot who) is meant to be attempting 25players at once, using 3 rigs.
 
Wow should run fine on 5770s if your CPU is upto it...

Regarding the 6 series equivalent of the 5870 its up in the air at the moment really... performance wise I suspect your looking at around 40% overall gains over the GTX480. (its definitely atleast 30% faster in crysis).

Price wise is also somewhat up in the air as it depends how soon they can get the cards to market, what competition is out there, prevalent exchange rate, etc. personally I suspect they won't be cheap on release almost definitely over £400 at launch unless their is credible competition.

where did you get the highlighted information from i was scouring the net but didn't come up with much
 
Wow should run fine on 5770s if your CPU is upto it...

Regarding the 6 series equivalent of the 5870 its up in the air at the moment really... performance wise I suspect your looking at around 40% overall gains over the GTX480. (its definitely atleast 30% faster in crysis).

Price wise is also somewhat up in the air as it depends how soon they can get the cards to market, what competition is out there, prevalent exchange rate, etc. personally I suspect they won't be cheap on release almost definitely over £400 at launch unless their is credible competition.


Thats the expected speeds of the Cayman based 6XXX, not the Barts based 6XXX which is expected in some sort of release late this month.

I'm also unaware of any confirmed name\numbers of the new 6XXX cards, all we have so far is peoples guesses, 6770, 6850, 6870 etc but not which chip they will be attched to.
 
Bg's pal, and raids ofc. (Though he won't do much good in bg's tbh..)

So still no real answer, should I stick my 5770's on the MM and buy a 6 series card or not?

Or a 470/480 maybe? Just remember that sli/crossfire is not working for these apps at all,
so I need a single fast card, as opposed to something in the middle that I could SLI/Xfire
later, as that won't be a possibility!
 
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