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AMD Radeon HD 6870 Reference Design * First Pics *

D.P. said:
Strange you don't have the same opinion on Nvidia naming schemes when the naming structure within the series made sense.:rolleyes:
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Its nothing like the same as the 8800gt/9800gt/gts240/8800gts/9800gtx/gtx250 as nvidia were bringing out the same card under different names and pushing it as new. The 6870 if thats what its called is supposed to be in between a 5850 and 5870 performance wise and from rumours matched up against a gtx460. If thats true then it will cost way less than a 5870 does atm. Its also not the same card as a 5870 either.

Theres no way you can compare what amd may do to what nvidia done back then and are still doing.
 
If they release it as a 6870 then they are pulling a bit of fast one, to the lay person they will think it is an improvement over 5870... simple as

So yes it is not like the Nvidia issue, it is a sneaky issue all of its own. But the die hards will drivel on how it is'nt..
 
Stanners said:
If they release it as a 6870 then they are pulling a bit of fast one, to the lay person they will think it is an improvement over 5870... simple as

So yes it is not like the Nvidia issue, it is a sneaky issue all of its own. But the die hards will drivel on how it is'nt..
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I can also see why amd may be making such a move though as this card is not gonna be in the same price bracket as the 5770, so the naming scheme did need tweaking a little to fill in the gap where the gtx460 cards are commanding atm.
 
As i have said, it is a very sneaky naming system if true, It would mean in order of performance

4870 - 6870 - 5870

yeah that looks clear as mud to your average user..Ati can put as much spin and use as much smoke and mirrors they want.. It is sneaky should it be done(Do we have any proof that they are infact doing it ?)
 
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So long as the card at the £200 6xxx mark is faster than at the £200 5xxx mark I don't care. A few early benchmarks will tell you where to put your money ;)
 
Stanners said:
As i have said, it is a very sneaky naming system if true, It would mean in order of performance

4870 - 6870 - 5870

yeah that looks clear as mub to your average user..Ati can put as much spin and use as much smoke and mirrors they want.. It is sneaky should it be done(Do we have any proof that they are infact doing it ?)
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Lets hope that they don't.
 
I suppose we just have to wait and see what the score is, i'm holding out upgrading my 2 4850 1gb cards in xfire till i see what the 6xxx series has to offer.
 
I don't know...I have a sneaky feeling this is going to be a very nice refresh in terms of performance.

Its just a hunch but eh! :D
 
easyrider said:
I don't know...I have a sneaky feeling this is going to be a very nice refresh in terms of performance.

Its just a hunch but eh! :D
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i have this feeling too, i just wish it would hurry up and come as im without a card at the mo and im having toi use my iphone to communicate with the outside world.

remember the fermi launch ?, will this be like that, as in, review sites will have these cards now or a week before launch and will release data and benchies when amd announce ?

how will this work ?
 
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Stanners said:
As i have said, it is a very sneaky naming system if true, It would mean in order of performance

4870 - 6870 - 5870

yeah that looks clear as mud to your average user..Ati can put as much spin and use as much smoke and mirrors they want.. It is sneaky should it be done(Do we have any proof that they are infact doing it ?)
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*What if* They change the naming scheme, and that's why it could be like that? *If* a 6870 is the same or less performance than a 5870, its price will determine if it's sneaky or not. If it's a lower price, it could be down to the fact that they're changing the number scheme a bit along side them being branded as AMD GPUs now instead of ATI.
 
Ahh the name scheming is confusing:confused::(.People have become so used to the ATI 4000/5000 series that new names will take time sinking in.
 
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kylew said:
*What if* They change the naming scheme, and that's why it could be like that? *If* a 6870 is the same or less performance than a 5870, its price will determine if it's sneaky or not. If it's a lower price, it could be down to the fact that they're changing the number scheme a bit along side them being branded as AMD GPUs now instead of ATI.
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Come of it, even your brand loyalty must think it stinks if they do it..
or can ATI really do no wrong in your eyes....
By all means change the naming scheme, just not in a underhand way.

Edit: But with a suprise, the 6870 might turn out to be slightly faster than a 5870.
 
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Stanners said:
Come of it, even your brand loyalty must think it stinks if they do it..
or can ATI really do no wrong in your eyes....
By all means change the naming scheme, just not in a underhand way.

Edit: But with a suprise, the 6870 might turn out to be slightly faster than a 5870.
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Ah, I see you didn't actually read my post properly. How about having another go? :)
 
I see what you are saying mate, i just think that it should not be called a 6870 if it is the 5770 replacement. Start a new naming scheme if they like or call it the 6770 this way it keeps the clarity they have created with the ranges it follows on from.

To start a new naming scheme but within that scheme using the reference from the top card to the lowest of your new range seems sneaky and to average joe could be misleading, if you see what i mean :D
 
We'll have to see whether these rumours are true but *if* AMD is releasing the 6870 at the same performance level as the 5870 then it *is* deceptive; it would be no different than what nVidia has been doing and which everyone has rightly criticised. Obviously the price is the most important factor - as names aren't really important to anyone that actually researches their purchases - but I don't want to see AMD sink to the dirty tactics that nVidia uses.
 
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