Iphone 5 already on its way?

Afraid we will agree to disagree - for some reason though you think Im defending the iPhone whereas all Im asking is if the opinion in the first place is actually informed. You do realise that Im not disagreeing in the market share facts at all - thats completely not my point :confused:

You are happy to take it as written, unfortunately Im not.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
The Mad Rapper said:
I don't think he's being rude. He's made a valid point which has been backed up by others. The iPhone isn't the be-all and end-all, simple as. It's retarded to suggest otherwise.
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I agree it is far from the be-all and end-all, and I didn't suggest otherwise, and nor did anyone else?

He immediately went on the offensive and he obviously is not informed enough to make such remarks.
 
I doubt there'll be a new iPhone in January. Apple is legendary for refusing to admit the extent of any problems with its hardware. Breaking their product release cycle would be tantamount to such an admission.

Apple could only get away with it if the hardware in the iP5 was substantially different to the iP4 - the same phone in a different case isn't going to cut it. That would mean a brand-new CPU, and I don't think Apple is able/willing to do that by January.

Apple will ride the problems out until June. It's not as if it has any commercial incentive to replace the iP4 so soon. It's already October, and the iP4 is still a complete sell-out online and in stores. They're selling them as quickly as they can make them - in what respect is that 'not the iPhone's year'?

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http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire...system-in-u-s-among-recent-smartphone-buyers/
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I would dispute the use of the word 'popular' in that title. There's only one phone running iOS. When people buy an iPhone, the OS is a big part of what they want (in the form of the platform and the user interface). iOS as a platform is genuinely 'popular' - so popular that millions of users are willing to pay a premium price to buy the one phone with that user interface and that app market.

Android isn't 'popular' with the mass market. Android is just ubiquitous. You can get a low-end Android phone, with a slow CPU and a crap resistive screen, dead cheaply. I bet you that most people buying such phones don't really know what Android is. They're just buying a phone, which happens to run Android because lots of manufacturers have jumped on it. Android may be widely-used, but it's not especially 'popular'. How many non-geeky people do you know who really want a phone because it's Android?
 
ps3ud0 said:
Afraid we will agree to disagree - for some reason though you think Im defending the iPhone whereas all Im asking is if the opinion in the first place is actually informed.
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Fair enough. Your post did read a little fanboy-esque however.

You are happy to take it as written, unfortunately I'm not.
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It's not that I am happy to take it as written, I just don't care. If you do, then you might like to do your own research and prove to us why he's wrong? Or you can let it go and get on with life ;)
 
Its well known in the Apple Hardware forums that I wont allow anything bad to said about the iP4...

You know being a fanboy and all

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Got a link confirming that?

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Yep definite biased comments again from me ;)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Robboftw said:
I agree it is far from the be-all and end-all, and I didn't suggest otherwise, and nor did anyone else?
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Again, no offence, but your own response came across as being very pro Apple. Perhaps I have read it wrong...

He immediately went on the offensive and he obviously is not informed enough to make such remarks.
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So that excuses your own response to him? You may as well have just typed 'Idiot' in your post, because that's what it seems you were thinking! ;)
 
My 3GS contract ends in Jan/Feb so will try to hold off getting a replacement until the summer or if there is more news about.
 
The problem with the yearly cycle that Apple tend to stick to, mixed with the wish to have the latest version which most of us have, is the standard 24 month contract...

not many people can afford the PAYG price, and the 12 month contracts are all but extinct.

I think they should bring back the 12 month contracts for iPhone users... a deal that lies somewhere in the middle.
 
Well then what you do is, get a 24 month contract for each completely new iPhone. Not the iterative like the 3GS, but the full ones like the iPhone 4. The first iPhone i took a contract out on was a 3GS, 24 month contract, but when the iPhone 4 came along, I bought that sim free and will then also be able to get the next, improved iPhone when my contract runs out.

Admittedly, not everyone will be in the position at that time to buy a £500 - £600 phone at the time, but it helped me stay on top of releases :p

As for the whole iPhone vs Android thing, well, it was always going to happen. Android is probably on more than a hundred phones. It is also on very low end phones that are being bought by people who don't even know about the operating system on the phone. It'd be strange if the market share didn't eventually takeover iOS (on phones).
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Again, no offence, but your own response came across as being very pro Apple. Perhaps I have read it wrong...
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I assure you I am the last person who would be pro-Apple. I like (and have) the iPhone 4, but I only think its better at a few specific things than the Android phones, software-wise, I think Android is far better on the whole.

The Mad Rapper said:
So that excuses your own response to him? You may as well have just typed 'Idiot' in your post, because that's what it seems you were thinking! ;)
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I could have :p
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Whatever floats your boat fella. Life's too short to get excited about silly things like that IMHO.
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Thats the whole reason to get excited about something.... you don't live for long....

MuGeN said:
I think they should bring back the 12 month contracts for iPhone users... a deal that lies somewhere in the middle.
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Yes, not just for the iPhone.. for all contracts they should have and maybe 6 months contracts too..
 
Feek said:
Wall Street Journal have absolutely no credibility, they've been claiming there's going to be a Verizon iPhone for the last three years and they've been wrong every single time.

I take this story with a very very large pinch of salt. I don't for a second believe there will be a new iPhone before June/July next year. In fact I've got my hat on standby.
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Pretty much sums it all up. I believe the Verizon iPhone when I see Apple announce it and as for a general GSM iPhone 5 are you all on crack? Apple can only just keep up with deman so they'd be stupid to release a new phone early. June/July next year just as it has been before.

As for the Android iOS debate: Well you can get an Android phone for not a lot of money and there are lots of different handsets. Given that it is enevitable that at some point it will overtake iPhone sales. Saying that the iPhone ain't doing bad against the onslaught of Android devices.
 
I think Feek's got it right.

Apple so far has been VERY strict in their life cycle of products, it is VERY predictable so for an iPhone to come out after a mere 8 months instead of 12, albeit has problems, it is selling better than the previous generations. There is no reason to release a V5 from a financial point of view. In fact, it is a BAD idea to release a new iPhone before the old one is less than 12 months old. If gives all those who has the iPhone 4 an excuse to return and upgrade under warranty.
 
I these iPhone 4 issues are massively blown out of proportion. I'm still on the 4.0 firmware and keep forgetting to update, because I don't need to, everything just works. No dropped calls or loss of signal, etc. In fact my gf uses a 3G on the same network and she has far more issues than I do (I don't have any issues so far luckily).

I doubt there will be a new iPhone so soon as I don't really see the point.
 
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