Porsche 911: All the same, crap to drive, just crap!

[TW]Fox;17583026 said:
You say that as if a 'vanilla' 996 is simply an ordinary car in ways your Soarer is not. Do not confuse ubiquity with ordinary.
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You are reading far too much into the word "Vanilla"...

I say it as it sets the likes of the C2S and C4S apart from the likes of the Turbo and GT models that I actually wouldn't mind for reasons I mentioned earlier.
 
So back to the original question then.

Your current car does it for you but a 996 doesn't. What is it your current car has that a 911 doesn't have?
 
Joshy said:
Does it really matter?
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Yes, it does.

I really cannot see the sense in even trying to compare the two.
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I want to know what it is that stops the 911 doing it for you other than the fact its unaffordable. I want to know what it is you want in a car that a 911 just hasn't got. You go on about how you like your current car, so the Soarer must have it.

Whats it got that the 911 cannot offer?
 
A Soarer is Joshy's sort of car. A 911 isn't. Laugh, mock, whatever, just don't expect me to be able to accurately explain how I feel. I'm certainly not going to try and compare a border line supercar to a 20 year old barge than can be had for a grand.

I'm very fickle when it comes to cars. A prime example is that I don't particularly like MKIV Supras, despite the fact that on paper it should be the holy grail for someone like me :).
 
Why is it so hard? I don't like, for example, the Noble M12 GTO. I could sit here and list a plethora of reasons why I simply wouldnt enjoy owning one, including comparisons to my current choice of car where asked. Infact I can do it for any car I dont like.

Come on Joshy ;)
 
Will Gill said:
a 911 isnt my kind of car, based on nothing

i lol'd

in the words of smokey, tool
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Oh please :rolleyes:.

This is actually genuinely beginning to wind me up a tad. I'm not entitled to an opinion unless I personally experience something? Awesome. Why don't we apply this to every motors thread seeing as very few of us have direct person experience on the cars that we make comments on, day in, day out. The majority of us base our opinions on snap judgements and what we've heard and read. It means that we can tell that a £2,000 E46 3 series is probably a bad idea without going to see the car in question or having a particularly in-depth knowledge of the model of car. No one is a tool then.

How I've seen my exchanges in this this thread:

Joshy: I don't want a 911.
Ocuk: Yes, you do, they are awesome/better than your car
Joshy: :confused:

Seriously, why can we not leave it at that? It is the personal opinion of someone who probably won't be in the position to play around with the likes of Porsches until the likes of the 996 become relics, so in the grand scheme of things what I think doesn't actually matter, certainly not to the point that some people have made out.

The only reason I got roped into this discussion was to "stick up" for smokey and his right to dislike a car if he wants to. I don't agree entirely with his points, neither do I agree with the way he put across these points, but I disagreed more with the strong feeling of "If you don't like a 911 you're an idiot" I got from some of the comments made in that thread.
 
Joshy said:
... I just don't think something like a vanilla 996 would be my sort of car. Something along the lines of GT3 appeals to the same part of me that would enjoy the Noble I mentioned in the other thread and a Turbo would appeal to the part of me who loves the idea of truly mentalist performance figures in a car that can be used everyday. Something like a C2S appeals to neither.
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Tell me, as you clearly have a well defined reason for it, what is it about the GT3 that makes it so appealing compared to the "vanilla" 911?
 
Eriedor said:
Tell me, as you clearly have a well defined reason for it, what is it about the GT3 that makes it so appealing compared to the "vanilla" 911?
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I've got a bit of a thing for "Racing cars" on the road. I don't think I'd be considered legally alive if I didn't consider a Porsche with Reacro bucket seats and a rollcage exciting :).
 
hurfdurf said:
How about you just admit you are being p dumb rather than dodge the questions constantly?
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How about some people realize, understand and accept that there are just some things in this world that cannot be accurately explained with words?
 
Joshy said:
I've got a bit of a thing for "Racing cars" on the road. I don't think I'd be considered legally alive if I didn't consider a Porsche with Reacro bucket seats and a rollcage exciting :).
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But what the GT3 offers is basicly what the C2 offers just more. The GT3 is deffinitely a much better car but it excels in the same areas a 911 does so to say the GT3 appeals but the C2 doesn't is some what strange and just furthers my thoughts that you simply like it because "but its got a cool spoiler init!" and you haven't really thought your "opinions" through.
 
Joshy said:
How about some people realize, understand and accept that there are just some things in this world that cannot be accurately explained with words?
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why not just say you have an irrational dislike for the car for no apparent reason ?

Which is obviously the truth, rather than trying to insinuate that the 911 is some kind of boring cruiser suitable only for women wanting to pose.
 
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