If only our government was as honest

It doesn't work because people are racist, and scared of change.

Is this not true of every living creature? What happens when a new Lion pitches up, for example?

Living beings are naturally designed to be scared or at least fearful of things which are different to them, as they can be perceived as a threat. Now whilst many of us now have levels of intelligence which enable us to control natural urges and feelings, not everyone does, and not everyone ever will.
 
A multicultural society is possible but it requires a lot of work on both side. The country being able to accommodate their needs and the foreigners willing to learn the language and put some graft in.

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To be frank, I find many people to be eye-wateringly stupid no matter what their ethnicity. People forget that EVERYONE in the bloody world has 'impure' blood in one way or another. Step one on the road to enlightenment is the destruction of The Daily Mail, its journalists and its readership.


Some of the immigrants won't mesh with our current society through traditionalism, fear, lack of education or because in some cases they are too damn stupid.

Some of our society won't mesh with immigrants through traditionalism, fear, lack of education or because in soe cases they are too damn stupid.
 
THIS

To be frank, I find many people to be eye-wateringly stupid no matter what their ethnicity. People forget that EVERYONE in the bloody world has 'impure' blood in one way or another. Step one on the road to enlightenment is the destruction of The Daily Mail, its journalists and its readership.


Some of the immigrants won't mesh with our current society through traditionalism, fear, lack of education or because in some cases they are too damn stupid.

Some of our society won't mesh with immigrants through traditionalism, fear, lack of education or because in soe cases they are too damn stupid.

LOL at the daily mail rant ?

Its a BBC article.
 
It doesn't work because immigrants naturally move to places with more of their own nationality, rather than being spread out across the nation. It's always been like that AFAIK.

This leads to; rather than being readily integrated into British society and culture, it is now more common practice for immigrants to continue their cultural practices in our country. My girlfriend recently worked somewhere where one of her colleagues expected her to open the door for him, he would stand and wait at the door for her to open it, and not do it himself. It is strange little things like this that seems to have an impact on people the most... it is our culture for men to open doors for women, not the other way around and that is where the clashes can begin. Scale that up to religious, political and social practices, all competing for space on our tiny island and it is asking for trouble.

It is British culture that dictates our acceptance and tolerance or practices of others, however with social media, blogs and the internet allowing people to voice opinions without being publicly bombarded with 'racist' and 'it's people like you' comments that will stir an uprising. Anonymity. There is already a horrible undercurrent of extreme views and opinions about immigrants in this country (BNP, EDL etc), and it is the same throughout Europe. I hope it doesn't come to it but I would not be surprised if there were race riots within the next ten years...

Personally I'm happy for people to practice their religions, cook their cuisine, marry into their own ethnicities if they want to and generally be themselves in Britain, but things like honor killings (rare), un-equal attitudes towards women, street gangs and being armed are all imports which should be stamped out here. What I also find disturbing are racist attitudes between immigrants, of which there are more than people realise.
 
Can I ask which way you are looking at this?

Are you on about the people coming to live here or the people already here?

Both. Everyone is as bad as each other. Just what are we to do? Imperialism, colonialism, free trade, dictatorships and so on have tried and failed. If the whole purpose of mankind is to better oneself then surely at least giving multiculturalism a try is worth a shot? The problem is selfish people on both sides and nothing will change because people are just too pigheaded.
 
How has it worked then, we have clearly segregated communities, a growing resentment of the UK being seen as a soft touch.

The problem is the second you say anything against multiculturalism you are branded a racist.

The problem is that those who rail against multiculturalism are generally racist and would attack those specific groups regardless of the very real problems we face especially in our inner cities.

It's becoming plainly obvious that the EU free movement policy has created an economic based exodus from the poor underdeveloped nations within the EU to the richer more developed ones, added to the large populations of ex-colonial immigrants this has stretched public services in certain areas, government policies on asylum and immigration have not helped, neither has the growth of right wing populism throughout Europe.

So we find ourselves in a position where many immigrants feel that they are only accepted by their own culture and this they shun integration in favour of segregation, right wing ideologues like the BNP and EDF only seek to encourage this, it's no coincidence that these groups only prosper in inner cities with large immigrant populations.

It is extremely worrying that now mainstream politicians such as Merkel and Sarkosy are venting such rhetoric and it is only a short step from rhetoric to action when such leaders begin this kind of criticism.

Well that's all I can type on an iPhone at the moment but I think you get the gist.

Basically, genuine concerns are generally ignored because racism is unfortunately the basis for much of the rhetoric.
 
We are being forced to accept this massive upheaval in out whole way of life

can you just let me know what upheaval you've personally experienced?

I only ask since none of it seems to have come to my area yet despite the immigrants and I need to know what to prepare for.

So far I've noticed that a LOT of immigrants work in shops or on buses or as cleaners and other stuff that us proper British folk (Read: lazy benefit scroungers) are far too good for.

Will i need a shotgun?
 
can you just let me know what upheaval you've personally experienced?

I only ask since none of it seems to have come to my area yet despite the immigrants and I need to know what to prepare for.

So far I've noticed that a LOT of immigrants work in shops or on buses or as cleaners and other stuff that us proper British folk (Read: lazy benefit scroungers) are far too good for.

Will i need a shotgun?

That's probably how it is for 95% of the 'native' population. Not much change from Britain's entire history. The media blow it all up. Just like the OMG SNOW CHAOS WE'LL ALL DIE headlines from last January, when most people had fun, some days off and actually helped strangers push cars etc.
 
What about the strain on NHS, schools, policing. We are also facing an energy crisis yet the immigration policy does nothing to alleviate this problems.

These are all practicalities, it has nothing to do with race.
 
That's probably how it is for 95% of the 'native' population. Not much change from Britain's entire history. The media blow it all up. Just like the OMG SNOW CHAOS WE'LL ALL DIE headlines from last January, when most people had fun, some days off and actually helped strangers push cars etc.

Exactly my point. I grew up in Croydon and work in London. In my experiences multiculturalism is working just fine. Yeah lots of Indian families live in the same area and lots of black families live in the same area. But is it any surprise when you look at how some folk deal with "ethnics" regardless of their own race.
 
Multicultural is NOT people of different races living together. It's as the name says, various cultures existing side by side and to be fair it's true, it hasn't really worked.
 
What about the strain on NHS, schools, policing. We are also facing an energy crisis yet the immigration policy does nothing to alleviate this problems.

These are all practicalities, it has nothing to do with race.

A massive burden on the NHS is alcohol-related. Shall we ban or ration alcohol?
 
I just wonder if we the UK population was asked, if we would like to vote on the proposed influx of immigrants coming into the country, what would the result have been. A 50 50 or.
What do you think?
 
I just wonder if we the UK population was asked, if we would like to vote on the proposed influx of immigrants coming into the country, what would the result have been. A 50 50 or.
What do you think?

I think Sir Winston Churchill put it best.

'The biggest arguement against democracy is a 10 minute conversation with the average voter'.

Most of this country cannot be trusted to decide what to eat let alone decide on matters as complex as immigration. They would simply do whatever the tabloid they read them to do.
 
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