Has Britain gone soft

Yes we will, and soon. The planning for it is already at a very advanced stage.

Tell me where you lot are striking and I will turn up with rotten eggs to throw at you for wasting taxpayer's money for the past 13+ years.


Lol!! Spot on:D. I am suprised that british people have become so docile in regard to protesting against government
Millions turned up for the anti-Iraq march, including me
 
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I blame the nanny state that has sprang up over the last 13 years (Labour Government)

God help us all now....... some people seem incapable of thinking/providing for themselves.
 
The French protesters are a bunch of idiots.
If these changes don't go through, the youth of today won't have any pensions because there won't be any money.
In the 1940s, there were 8 taxpayers for every pensioner. Today, there are 1.8.

FWIW, it's also almost impossible to fire someone in France.
 
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Tell me where you lot are striking and I will turn up with rotten eggs to throw at you for wasting taxpayer's money for the past 13+ years.

No need for personal attacks - lets keep this civil on the forums please.
 
No need for personal attacks - lets keep this civil on the forums please.

There's no personal attack there, he is providing an opinion in an expressive way. That childish reaction tallys with the political views expressed earlier.

It's all someone else's fault, let's take to the streets.
 
No need for personal attacks - lets keep this civil on the forums please.
There's no personal attack there, he is providing an opinion in an expressive way.

Indeed, there was no personal attack there. I was merely saying that the public sector employees and their unions are responsible for the the massive inefficiency within the public sector system and as such they have been wasting my money for decades.
 
Lol so true. When ever an issue arises, there is a debate and the opinions are always divided almost 50-50 and then the issue is shoved under the carpet and people just move on.

That's because on most issues you cannot simply take the middle ground, as that will make things far worse (this is what Obama did with the US Healthcare).

What you need to do is take bits from both ends, however then you end up with each side refusing to do that (the ConDems have managed to do this though by taking policies from both spectrums as opposed to just going for the middle)
 
Tell me where you lot are striking and I will turn up with rotten eggs to throw at you for wasting taxpayer's money for the past 13+ years.

Indeed, there was no personal attack there. I was merely saying that the public sector employees and their unions are responsible for the the massive inefficiency within the public sector system and as such they have been wasting my money for decades.

Well in that case I'll keep an eye out for you so I can have you arrested for assault.

Violent protest (or anti-protest) has no place in civilised society.

You truly are a disgusting individual.
 
Not having a go at anyone here, but the following quotes touched on something I think most ordinary people have a great deal of trouble getting their head round:



Not my fault; had a job and no debt until the recession. Had savings too - had being the operative word here - spent it all to make ends meet.



Sorry, but what's all of this 'we' business? Unless you're a labour MP or a banker, 'we' had FA do do with most of the financial trouble.

We means the WE who voted in Labour as they cooked stats, killed our industry, jacked up government spending, created jobs we didn't need and put us a trillion in debt(with a forecast of 1.4trillion in just 4 years if Labour were left in charge, from Labour themselves, and they thought that was fantastic down from the 1.6trillion or so they thought they were due to get us into before they cut spending a bit).

WE voted in Labour, and Labour is the primary reason the country is in the mess its in.

Its pretty simple, if you have a job that pays 50k a year, you can get away with spending that every year with no problems. If you spend 100k a year, and the extra 50k increases in interest then eventually you're adding 100k, then 200k a year to the debt a dozen years down the line.

Now when a normal person gets in that much debt, they don't return to spending 50k a year, you need to drastically reduce your spending to make a dent in that debt, if you return to the "sane" levels of spending you could have continued indefinately, the debt will continue increasing too fast to cope with.

Basically our national debt has gotten so big we're being threatened by increased interest rates and we're borderline completely out of control with no way of getting back into a "stable" level of debt.

You can't just have services that cost 100billion a year, because you want them, unfortunately Labour don't get that. Labour got their hands on a 0% APR credit card, put a trillion on it and don't seem to realise that the 0% APR is up and the money does have to be spent eventually.


So yes, WE most certainly did this, and the current government is doing EXACTLY what needs doing, is the only option, and if they don't cut spending dramatically, the country is quite literally in danger of collapsing completely in the not to distant future, which people seem to forget will mean we won't be able to afford to import food, or medical supplies, of defence supplise, we'll be in ridiculous trouble.
 
It's coming though, and it'll make the French protests look like a kindergartens day out.

Considering the rioting and vanalism occuring during the french protests how can you reconcile the above with the following statement?

Violent protest (or anti-protest) has no place in civilised society.

I would also suggest that calling for no personal attacks is somewhat incompatible with making statements such as:

You truly are a disgusting individual.

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It's coming though, and it'll make the French protests look like a kindergartens day out.

Considering the rioting and vanalism occuring during the french protests how can you reconcile the above with the following statement?


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Violent protest (or anti-protest) has no place in civilised society.

:)

Would you not agree that violent protest is very "kindergarten'ish"?

I can reconcile it quite easily because there are a multitude of ways to make a protest more effective without having to resort to violence.

So to summarise, the protests coming to the UK will make the French protests look like a kindergarten in that our protests will be more grown up, organised and effective - it doesn't have to be violent to fulfill any of those three.


I concede your last point though - I should have shown more restraint and not stooped to rypt's level.
 
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So to summarise, the protests coming to the UK will make the French protests look like a kindergarten in that our protests will be more grown up, organised and effective - it doesn't have to be violent to fulfill any of those three.

Wow, what a backtrack - it's pretty obvious what you meant. Now go and do some real work and stop being a self-important union waster. :D
 
amiga - I also thought you were goading the fact that they weren't violent in comparison to what a riot here could be capable of.

Not at all.

Wow, what a backtrack - it's pretty obvious what you meant.

Not obvious enough it seems. That's the trouble with text - often hard to communicate intention.

now go and do some real work

Day off :-)
 
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