6850?

Monster ninja · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:22

stupid queston is the 6580 better then the 5850? i ask this because there the 5850 is like £100 more XD

^Andy^ · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:25

Monster ninja said:
stupid queston is the 6580 better then the 5850? i ask this because there the 5850 is like £100 more XD

No, the 6850 is nearer to a 5770 perfomance wise. The 6870 is the card you would be looking at if you want performance somwehere between a 5850 and a 5870.

Monster ninja · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:27

ah cheers! then why not call it the 6770? thats gonna get a lot of people

^Andy^ · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:33

It sort of makes sense when you realise that the 5850 and 5870 card are being dicontinued.

The new line up will be (as far as I understand it)..
5770 - entry level card,
6850 - entry mid level card,
6870 - high end mid level card,
6950 - entry performance card,
6970 - high end performance card,
6990 - monster card

crackerbear · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:37

Monster ninja said:
ah cheers! then why not call it the 6770? thats gonna get a lot of people

Yeah there's a lot of rage going around because of the name change.

Most just think it's a deliberate marketing ploy aimed at the average Joe consumer who will purely look at model numbers and think larger number = better.

It's annoying, but if you spend a few minutes looking at reviews, it should be obvious how the cards fall in terms of performance.

Monster ninja · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:38

cheers maybe thinking a couple of 6870s... i will wait a while see whats what after xmas i think or grab myself a couple of 5850s?

crackerbear · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:40

Monster ninja said:
cheers maybe thinking a couple of 6870s... i will wait a while see whats what after xmas i think or grab myself a couple of 5850s?

Probably a wise choice if you don't need to buy right now. Reports say the high end 69xx ATI cards come out late November/early December, so it should drive current prices slightly lower.

^Andy^ · 23 Oct 2010 at 15:59

Monster ninja said:
cheers maybe thinking a couple of 6870s... i will wait a while see whats what after xmas i think or grab myself a couple of 5850s?

I wouldnt grab a pair of 5850's unless you already have one - a pair of 6870's would be cheaper (looks like they scale better with crossfire too even if just by a little). Don't forget the 5850 and 5870 are now end of life so what's left on the shelves and in the warehouse is all that's left!

An Exception · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:01

Also the 6870's scale better than 5850's...

Monster ninja · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:06

think i will just wait till after xmas i sould have aroud £400-500 to spend on a graphics card

crackerbear · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:09

Monster ninja said:
think i will just wait till after xmas i sould have aroud £400-500 to spend on a graphics card

The single top end 69xx card will probably cost that much and beat 2x 6870. Whether you want to spend that much on a single card is another matter though

^Andy^ · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:13

The top end card will be the 6990 though which will probably cost close on twice the price of the 6980 which we don't even know the specs or price of yet

RavenXXX2 · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:14

crackerbear said:
The single top end 69xx card will probably cost that much and beat 2x 6870.)

You mean 6990? dual GPU

Doubt it will come with 900 core speed.

^Andy^ · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:18

RavenXXX2 said:
You mean 6970?

Doubt it will come with 900 core speed.

It's sure going to be interesting to see what AMD/ATI have up their sleeves for the 6900 series and also Nvidia because let's face it they must have something ready to go very soon too!

RavenXXX2 · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:20

Yeah really looking forward to seeing the 6970 specs and performance.

crackerbear · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:21

Well the 6990 is not what I'd call the top end card. It's the insane man's card with waaaayy too much money than sense, so most normal people don't apply

An Exception · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:25

^Andy^ said:
It's sure going to be interesting to see what AMD/ATI have up their sleeves for the 6900 series and also Nvidia because let's face it they must have something ready to go very soon too!

Maybe a full GF100 or 104 if we are lucky...

WingZero30 · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:33

^Andy^ said:
Don't forget the 5850 and 5870 are now end of life so what's left on the shelves and in the warehouse is all that's left!

Awww man it makes me sad reading this

. Only a couple of months ago 5850/5870s were the rage and now their era is coming to an end. Makes you wonder at the rapid pace of change in computer hardware. Sigh

crackerbear · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:37

WingZero30 said:
Awww man it makes me sad reading this. Only a couple of months ago 5850/5870s were the rage and now their era is coming to an end. Makes you wonder at the rapid pace of change in computer hardware. Sigh

If it's any consolation, if you do own a 5850 or 5870, there's not much out there that you can't play at complete max settings.

On another note, whilst change is good, it makes the buy-waiting game much harder. As in, you can buy now or wait just 1 or 2 months for something newer and better to come out, such is the pace of the turn over.

mkfk1 · 23 Oct 2010 at 16:38

^Andy^ said:
No, the 6850 is nearer to a 5770 perfomance wise. The 6870 is the card you would be looking at if you want performance somwehere between a 5850 and a 5870.

Not true, considering that review show the 6850 beats 5830 consistently.

Infact, the 6850 is about 5-25% slower than a 5850 depending on the resolution and the game.

Stock 6850 also consistently beat stock gtx460.